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Old Oct 18th 2018, 11:34 am
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I don't live anywhere near a tourist resort. There is one German couple in my village. The rest are Mallorquin. Why is it that I don't see them as "foreigners"? Because I'm one of them?


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Oh come on Ami, the foreign population of the Balearics is the highest in Spain and the 850,000 or so people living on Mallorca are also accompanied by over 7,000,000 holiday makers each year.

There's nothing wrong in living in a Spanish Disneyland, but don't try and pretend it's real Spain.
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 11:39 am
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Yes, I know state governor is not federal, nevertheless it's a serious amount of power for someone whom you would prefer to deny full citizenship. I already pointed out that the criteria for president is US born, and presumably that extends to VP (as a potential substitute). Senators, not sure, but I've never heard of a restriction. In any case you are splitting hairs. Unlike yourself, the USA, like the British government is not fixated on country of birth as a requirement of citizenship. Time to update your thinking UKIP guy.
I have no problem with people taking citizenship of any country. I also have no problems with dual citizenship unlike your far leftist buddie EMR who believes it constitutes an act of treason.

What I have a problem with are foreigners interfering in the democratic processes of other countries. Your crush idol Miller stuck her nose in where it wasn't wanted. I wouldn't even know who she was otherwise and we'd all be happier for it.
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 11:43 am
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But my crush idol is British. British by birth (colony) and British by living here from a young age. Why should she not get involved in politics? You are on extremely shakey ground. And no complaints on Boris (as J pointed out)? What are your true motivations on this? Examine thyself.
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 11:48 am
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But my crush idol is British. British by birth (colony) and British by living here from a young age. Why should she not get involved in politics? You are on extremely shakey ground. And no complaints on Boris (as J pointed out)? What are your true motivations on this? Examine thyself.
Sorry but unless you were born in the United Kingdom then you aren't a real British person. Someone born to non-British parents in a colony wouldn't even be born with a UK passport AFAIK.

I've already applied the same rule to Boris several times. He was born in the US and therefore shouldn't have been allowed to run for government IMO. If you're going to argue with me then at least have the decency not to misquote me.
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 11:58 am
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So you're someone who places more importance on accident of birth (Boris) than capability. One's striving in education, good deeds, natural talents, social nous, intellect and charm should be completely ignored over the simple history of where the said individual popped out from his mother's womb. That's your view, is it?
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 11:59 am
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I have no problem with people taking citizenship of any country. I also have no problems with dual citizenship unlike your far leftist buddie EMR who believes it constitutes an act of treason.

What I have a problem with are foreigners interfering in the democratic processes of other countries. Your crush idol Miller stuck her nose in where it wasn't wanted. I wouldn't even know who she was otherwise and we'd all be happier for it.
Not an act of treason, your bollocks posting index has reached new heights today, but an act of convenience , .
The hole you digging for yourself is getting so deep that you could come up in Aus where you will probably be deported as an unwelcome foreigner..
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 12:01 pm
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Not an act of treason, your bollocks posting index has reached new heights today, but an act of convenience , .
The hole you digging for yourself is getting so deep that you could come up in Aus where you will probably be deported as an unwelcome foreigner..
Quite ! Bollocks posting indeed.
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If that's true then you have a funny way of expressing it.
What view have I expressed that makes you think I'm not a Thatcherite Conservative?
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 12:11 pm
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Oh come on Ami, the foreign population of the Balearics is the highest in Spain and the 850,000 or so people living on Mallorca are also accompanied by over 7,000,000 holiday makers each year.

There's nothing wrong in living in a Spanish Disneyland, but don't try and pretend it's real Spain.
I didn't think you knew much about it. Daily Mail isn't really a very good source. They only report on Magaluf, because, well, everywhere else is just uninteresting foreigners. How big is Magaluf, anyway? And how big is Mallorca?
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I have no problem with people taking citizenship of any country. I also have no problems with dual citizenship unlike your far leftist buddie EMR who believes it constitutes an act of treason.

What I have a problem with are foreigners interfering in the democratic processes of other countries. Your crush idol Miller stuck her nose in where it wasn't wanted. I wouldn't even know who she was otherwise and we'd all be happier for it.
Except maybe for the Russians? After all, they want the same things you do, and they do indeed interfere in democratic processes of other countries.

In fact, it seems they may have well succeeded in convincing you (and lots of others) of a number of false premises to get you to vote the way they were hoping for.
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 12:19 pm
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Sorry but unless you were born in the United Kingdom then you aren't a real British person. Someone born to non-British parents in a colony wouldn't even be born with a UK passport AFAIK.

I've already applied the same rule to Boris several times. He was born in the US and therefore shouldn't have been allowed to run for government IMO. If you're going to argue with me then at least have the decency not to misquote me.
She was born British and is British. She has (and always has had) a British passport.

I fail to see anyway why someone who happened to be born abroad (as my niece was - in Germany of British service parents as it happens) should be unsuitable for public high office.
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Sorry but unless you were born in the United Kingdom then you aren't a real British person. Someone born to non-British parents in a colony wouldn't even be born with a UK passport AFAIK.

I've already applied the same rule to Boris several times. He was born in the US and therefore shouldn't have been allowed to run for government IMO. If you're going to argue with me then at least have the decency not to misquote me.
Aww, hell, let's just say it: Not even real people are they? Something less than that, right? I mean, look at all those foreigners, by your own narratives, inferior in so many ways... That's the whole problem with this world, innit? FULL of foreigners.
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Old Oct 18th 2018, 12:34 pm
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She was born British and is British. She has (and always has had) a British passport.

I fail to see anyway why someone who happened to be born abroad (as my niece was - in Germany of British service parents as it happens) should be unsuitable for public high office.
Collateral damage. In order to tar someone he dislikes with the foreigner-brush (an odious thing in itself) he has to invoke the USA presidential exception for natural born citizens, and claim that he is as against Boris taking high office as Miller campaigning for legislative authority. It's not easy denying ones true nature, I guess. As the natural born president of the USA would tweet, Sad!
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So you're someone who places more importance on accident of birth (Boris) than capability. One's striving in education, good deeds, natural talents, social nous, intellect and charm should be completely ignored over the simple history of where the said individual popped out from his mother's womb. That's your view, is it?
Yes.
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Aww, hell, let's just say it: Not even real people are they? Something less than that, right? I mean, look at all those foreigners, by your own narratives, inferior in so many ways... That's the whole problem with this world, innit? FULL of foreigners.
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