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Old Apr 4th 2020, 2:25 am
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
It's not just Canada and LATAM, he's just being his usual global equal-opportunity gittish self, as ever...

US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...bidding-demand
I read that and wondered why it wasn't called theft.
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 2:59 am
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Nothing brings out the hate from people more than articles about low income people getting some extra help or disabled getting a bit more temporarily.

Comments ranging from low income people don't work and are lazy, guess what someone working full-time for $14/hr is low income. Having a disability doesn't mean someone is lazy. The favorite is from people who claim to have a disability and because they can manage this or that everyone with a disability can do it.

Or the favorite, I am still working but I want government help to, be glad you have a job still and don't need help.

Seems times like this bring the worse out of people more than the good.



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Old Apr 4th 2020, 3:07 am
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Nothing brings out the hate from people more than articles about low income people getting some extra help or disabled getting a bit more temporarily.

Comments ranging from low income people don't work and are lazy, guess what someone working full-time for $14/hr is low income. Having a disability doesn't mean someone is lazy. The favorite is from people who claim to have a disability and because they can manage this or that everyone with a disability can do it.

Or the favorite, I am still working but I want government help to, be glad you have a job still and don't need help.

Seems times like this bring the worse out of people more than the good.
I do wish you wouldn't read this stuff , wherever it is. There will always be unpleasant people out there. Best thing is to not poke yourself with that sharp stick . You won't change them at all but it could upset yourself. Best not go there.
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I do wish you wouldn't read this stuff , wherever it is. There will always be unpleasant people out there. Best thing is to not poke yourself with that sharp stick . You won't change them at all but it could upset yourself. Best not go there.
I try to avoid the comment section generally but sometimes get sucked in but I try not to post and only to read

Canada and Germany among the top economies with most to lose, US economy according to the report will be somewhat more cushioned. Those countries they rely more on others will be hurt the most is seems.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-lose-ing-says



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Old Apr 4th 2020, 7:09 am
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Well I'm not likely to see home for another 2 months by the looks of things. I'm eating right and am laying off the booze, mainly so I don't get into any habits. 3 things I'm doing as soon as I do get home, lay on the floor while my dog goes nuts, get jiggy with the missus, and get royally messed up in my bar. Life goals
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
It's not just Canada and LATAM, he's just being his usual global equal-opportunity gittish self, as ever...

US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...bidding-demand
Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
I read that and wondered why it wasn't called theft.
And by "piracy" and "theft" you mean "offering a higher price"?
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 9:34 am
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And by "piracy" and "theft" you mean "offering a higher price"?
Yes, it sounds to me more like gazumping. Still not a nice thing to do to partners though.
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 10:01 am
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Yes, it sounds to me more like gazumping. Still not a nice thing to do to partners though.
Yes gazumping may be one description, or "bidding a higher price" is another.

Trump is firstly responsible for and to his citizens.
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 11:12 am
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Yes gazumping may be one description, or "bidding a higher price" is another.
Well, strictly speaking neither is correct; if an order has been placed and accepted, as the Germans appear to be claiming, it can't be cancelled by another purchasing party offering a higher price.
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Why does it matter what it's called? Is international collaboration to deal with an international threat totally out of the question, or must fear and greed be the only driving forces in all circumstances? This may be a rhetorical question of course.
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Yes gazumping may be one description, or "bidding a higher price" is another.

Trump is firstly responsible for and to his citizens.
Really
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 1:54 pm
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or must fear and greed be the only driving forces in all circumstances?
And selfishness.


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Old Apr 4th 2020, 2:14 pm
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And by "piracy" and "theft" you mean "offering a higher price"?
Maybe you should take another read of the article.
The US has been accused of “modern piracy” after reportedly diverting a shipment of masks intended for the German police, and outbidding other countries in the increasingly fraught global market for coronavirus protective equipment.
See, that is two things there. There is an AND to separate the two things. One thing is outbidding and the other is diverting - or intercepting - a shipment intended for somewhere else.
More detail - "diverted to the US as they were being transferred between planes in Thailand."

There was also a report about a supply of masks on the way to Montreal that "mysteriously ended up in Ohio."

Theft and piracy would appear to be entirely accurate descriptions.
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Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
Maybe you should take another read of the article.

See, that is two things there. There is an AND to separate the two things. One thing is outbidding and the other is diverting - or intercepting - a shipment intended for somewhere else.
More detail - "diverted to the US as they were being transferred between planes in Thailand."

There was also a report about a supply of masks on the way to Montreal that "mysteriously ended up in Ohio."

Theft and piracy would appear to be entirely accurate descriptions.
Whatever is going on, the USA is powerful enough to get away with it. Might is right, as the saying goes.
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Yes gazumping may be one description, or "bidding a higher price" is another.

Trump is firstly responsible for and to his citizens.
He's doing great at that. Bigly.



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