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Old Oct 11th 2021, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
Won't take a vaccine, will take animal de-wormer, was a high-ranking army officer, wants to be a Governor.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...box=1633872843


What an idiotic species we can be.
Even Chmpanzees know not to take things for illness that haven't been proven

Chimpanzee socieities know through educating each generation, what plants can help them with tummy aches, and which can help them with internal parasites and other medicinal uses, which while very basic compared to our science, they don't seem to have the anti-types going hey George lick this lemur poop for your internal parasites, yeah its not proven but that plant there is big chimp pharma trying to put microchips into you, types in their society, but they are less civil overall, so there are downsides but they are creepily similiar to our society in many ways, they have wars with each other for territory, some of their wars have even gone on for a fairly lenghy time too.


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I know that position is largely poltical in nature, I just find it amusing we don't have human medical specialists as head of these agencies.
I don't know why the bureaucracy goes on so far down the ladder; at first I thought you might be talking about the Minister of Health (who isn't a doctor either but has some really good experience). Relevant examples could be Minister of Economics doesn't have to be a business tycoon, Minister of the Environment doesn't have to be a miner or lumberjack, etc. I think I might agree with you about this PHAC position. At some point you have to wonder why this committee doesn't have an administrative head who also has his or her hands on the actual work they're doing. Dr Kochhar'a veterinary credentials seem impeccable, so maybe he will be a better fit than Stewart. I found one of the articles:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...ar-on-the-job/

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Why waste time. Let's just go back to the middle ages in the US and give all the science and investment to some other part of the planet that wants it.
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Just to help, I've quoted my original post again, I've left everything in so you can ignore it all again if you please, it would help if you read it all though - honestly. If what I said was wrong, I'm happy to be corrected.
I did read it and I only ignored most of it to the extent my previous post referenced Europe, North America and Australasia, a fair old chunk of the world.
I did correct it it to show there was actually not a great deal of difference between the fully vaccinated figures for the UK and Australia.
Australia, fully vaccinated - 65.4%
I'm seeing about 68% for UK on different sites. Not very different is it.
I also observed that BE members in a fair chunk of the world had confirmed that their lives were going on pretty much as normal - just with a few conditions - fro several months and back to last year. All that without the vaccines, so the need for vaccines was less urgent than the UK with its death rate.
I gave you that comparison too.
Per million, UK 2,020 against Australia 58.
When you have a death rate a fraction of the UK's, the need for vaccines isn't so immediate. They started later and now there's not a great difference and they are still well ahead in terms of covid impact and the economy was ticking over, people going in their tens of thousands to rugby as normal and so on.

I don't see that making a comparison between the UK and Egypt or Turkey is a good way to show the UK as light years ahead.

I'll repeat the part about a limited lockdown for a fraction of covid time too. That's what happened.

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British Columbia is at 89% of eligible 12+ partially vaccinated, and 82% of eligible fully vaccinated.

When you include the ineligible 0-11 year old age group we are at 79% and 73% of the population partially and fully vaccinated.
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Whoa - what's going on in Florida?! Do we believe this?


California has a mask mandate AND Covid vaccination proof requirements for restaurants and such. Florida - pretty much the wild west as I understand it.

But then, I question any numbers for 'cases' these days, because I don't see any organized effort at testing anywhere. So without testing, 'case' numbers are useless.

Looking at 'death' numbers may be more telling:


That certainly reflects more what I would expect.

Looking at the global picture, perhaps a similar conclusion can be drawn. Here, we see the UK showing quite badly (high cases), and the US looking much better than the UK ...



But the 'deaths' picture looks quite different and probably just goes to show the US 'case' numbers are useless.



For those following the data, has there been any good charts showing comparative figures for 'excess deaths' yet? In theory, that should give us the clearest picture of all .

All charts from An interactive visualization of COVID-19 | 91-DIVOC
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I did read it and I only ignored most of it to the extent my previous post referenced Europe, North America and Australasia, a fair old chunk of the world.
I did correct it it to show there was actually not a great deal of difference between the fully vaccinated figures for the UK and Australia.

I also observed that BE members in a fair chunk of the world had confirmed that their lives were going on pretty much as normal - just with a few conditions - fro several months and back to last year. All that without the vaccines, so the need for vaccines was less urgent than the UK with its death rate.
I gave you that comparison too.

When you have a death rate a fraction of the UK's, the need for vaccines isn't so immediate. They started later and now there's not a great difference and they are still well ahead in terms of covid impact and the economy was ticking over, people going in their tens of thousands to rugby as normal and so on.

I don't see that making a comparison between the UK and Egypt or Turkey is a good way to show the UK as light years ahead.

I'll repeat the part about a limited lockdown for a fraction of covid time too. That's what happened.
NSW and Victoria have dragged Australian vaccination figures up. WA has done its best to drag them down. From that perspective I would argue that allowing outbreaks is beneficial in the long run as it gives people a dose of reality.
WA has been largely un touched, but because of that every other person you talk to there is an anti vaxxer who thinks it's all a big conspiracy.
The UK is light years ahead of us believe me
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
NSW and Victoria have dragged Australian vaccination figures up. WA has done its best to drag them down. From that perspective I would argue that allowing outbreaks is beneficial in the long run as it gives people a dose of reality.
WA has been largely un touched, but because of that every other person you talk to there is an anti vaxxer who thinks it's all a big conspiracy.
The UK is light years ahead of us believe me
NSW and Victoria do have the highest vaccination rates, the reason for that is they've both had widespread outbreaks of community transmission and long lock downs, which does 'encourage' people to get vaccinated. The Federal government also reduced the allocated supply of vaccines to other States to increase NSW and Victoria's supplies during their outbreaks, which IMO was the right thing to do but it did impact on the number of vaccines available in WA and other States.

I can't claim to know everyone in WA but I do know a fair few! I don't see a disproportionate (to other States) number of anti-vaxxers, but I have seen the same complacency among some people which mirrors that of NSW and Vic before the boom lowered.

Covid will come to WA, I think the majority of people over here realise that (anti-vaxxers excluded). While it's a shame that some people have to see deaths in their community to prompt them to get the vaccine, I don't agree that just allowing the virus to rip is the right thing to do if there are alternatives. WA's numbers of partly and fully vaccinated are increasing daily.

I know that Mark McGowan is on the nose in the East, but I think he's done the right thing by West Australians with the hard border. It's hard to argue against that when considering that apart from a few short lockdowns/restriction periods, we've been free to do and go where we want within our State. Most importantly, the number of deaths from community transmission has been comparatively tiny.

I know the hard border has made life difficult and stressful for some people, including a family member, and that's horrible. But Covid is horrible too.

Anyway, that's my opinion, given as I'm sitting in my courtyard waiting till it's time to go to the dentist. I hate going to the dentist
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For those following the data, has there been any good charts showing comparative figures for 'excess deaths' yet? In theory, that should give us the clearest picture of all .
The Economist updated its excess death estimates this week. Most of this article is paywalled, but here's a paragraph of "fair use":

"Although the official number of deaths caused by covid-19 is now 4.9m, our single best estimate is that the actual toll is 16.4m people. We find that there is a 95% chance that the true value lies between 10.1m and 19.1m additional deaths."

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...aths-estimates

Of countries with large populations, their "top six" percentage-wise for having deaths way higher than official stats are China (13,000% higher), Nigeria (6,400%), Pakistan (2,400%), Bangladesh (1,900%), Saudi Arabia (1,900%) and India (900%). A whole host of small countries, most in Asia and Africa have excess death estimates 2,000% or more higher than official covid stats.

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I did read it and I only ignored most of it to the extent my previous post referenced Europe, North America and Australasia, a fair old chunk of the world.
I did correct it it to show there was actually not a great deal of difference between the fully vaccinated figures for the UK and Australia.

I also observed that BE members in a fair chunk of the world had confirmed that their lives were going on pretty much as normal - just with a few conditions - fro several months and back to last year. All that without the vaccines, so the need for vaccines was less urgent than the UK with its death rate.
I gave you that comparison too.

When you have a death rate a fraction of the UK's, the need for vaccines isn't so immediate. They started later and now there's not a great difference and they are still well ahead in terms of covid impact and the economy was ticking over, people going in their tens of thousands to rugby as normal and so on.

I don't see that making a comparison between the UK and Egypt or Turkey is a good way to show the UK as light years ahead.

I'll repeat the part about a limited lockdown for a fraction of covid time too. That's what happened.

Here's the whole post....again

Take Australia for example, recently, another large lockdown just ended - it was in the news at 100+ days or something if I remember rightly. They've vaccinated about half of the population.

In Egypt, only 6% of the population are vaccinate and deaths have risen quickly in the last few weeks.

In Turkey, deaths are coming down from the second highest peak although 50ish% are vaccinated.

Whilst the UAE can claim 102% vaccinated, we still have social distancing restrictions, mask wearing and temperature monitoring. In Saudi I had to show an app everywhere I went and scan temperature - that was everywhere, no exceptions, no entry otherwise.

Guess these are some countries who are in a different position on the recovery journey to where the UK is today. There are many examples I'm sure some could share of countries light years ahead of the UK, in a similar position, or....dare I say, light years behind.

Quite why this has become such a ****ing labour to explain is beyond me. Nobody seemed to give a shit about the second part of my post
Here's the post you were replying to above;

Just to help, I've quoted my original post again, I've left everything in so you can ignore it all again if you please, it would help if you read it all though - honestly. If what I said was wrong, I'm happy to be corrected. So to check, was there a lockdown in Australia that recently ended? OK, was it 100+ days? OK, was it large - potentially city wide or something like that? Cool.

If you, and others, would read what's written before responding about something very particular or not included, it would have made this an opportunity for something interesting to be discussed. Instead, however, the toys went out the pram from the obvious candidates, who, since being shown to be completely wrong resort to the below. How can anyone discuss anything on these forums if people won't simply just read something and not respond by shouting about something else?
Happy to help discuss these in their entirety, but in short, so we can draw a line under this deliberate attempt to make it look like I'm saying something I'm not;

1. Scamp makes point that the UK is light years ahead of some countries in the covid 'recovery' journey.
2. Eruption of anger and bluster and bullshit from morons who think that means 'UK IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY SPAIN'
3. Comment from Ami, probably (she loves me)
4. More comments, totally ignoring there is more to the world than white, western nations.
5. More bemusement from me at people being that ****ing dumb.
6. I share some stats about some random nations - it seems nobody on here has any idea or interest in what is happening beyond the end of their nose....unless Hancock is involved in Africa, then suddenly the continent becomes important again
7. Ami probably chimed in again, just can't get enough.
8. You go on another Australian charge, choose to 'defend' a nation or make it look better than the UK when there was no need to. Nobody had said it was a failure or success. It's a weird complex.
9. I responded to Ami at last, bless her.
10. Here we are. Scamp explaining, again, that a comment made about the comparative success of the UK's journey out of lockdowns and restrictions and back to normality etc is actually, 100% cast iron, light years ahead of some countries. Impenetrable fact. Pick a country in the world to debate the difference between - totally different comment. Shouting about Spain or Australia or Mngolia or Namibia being better because that's where you're based or the country you prefer is probably the worst, most self-serving, arrogant and tragic response that an individual could have to a world-wide discussion that could have been. What is good? What's bad? What's happening with COVAX to help the bad? What's happening with work, school, events etc? What's happening with rates, with deaths? What's happening economically? What about the borrowing? The schemes still running? The support for people?

Doesn't need a white paper or a peer-reviewed journal publishing, but just a few more people interested in a discussion instead of shouting, throwing insults and generally being total <<<snip>>>

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Here's the whole post....again



Here's the post you were replying to above;



Happy to help discuss these in their entirety, but in short, so we can draw a line under this deliberate attempt to make it look like I'm saying something I'm not;

1. Scamp makes point that the UK is light years ahead of some countries in the covid 'recovery' journey.
2. Eruption of anger and bluster and bullshit from morons who think that means 'UK IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY SPAIN'
3. Comment from Ami, probably (she loves me)
4. More comments, totally ignoring there is more to the world than white, western nations.
5. More bemusement from me at people being that ****ing dumb.
6. I share some stats about some random nations - it seems nobody on here has any idea or interest in what is happening beyond the end of their nose....unless Hancock is involved in Africa, then suddenly the continent becomes important again
7. Ami probably chimed in again, just can't get enough.
8. You go on another Australian charge, choose to 'defend' a nation or make it look better than the UK when there was no need to. Nobody had said it was a failure or success. It's a weird complex.
9. I responded to Ami at last, bless her.
10. Here we are. Scamp explaining, again, that a comment made about the comparative success of the UK's journey out of lockdowns and restrictions and back to normality etc is actually, 100% cast iron, light years ahead of some countries. Impenetrable fact. Pick a country in the world to debate the difference between - totally different comment. Shouting about Spain or Australia or Mngolia or Namibia being better because that's where you're based or the country you prefer is probably the worst, most self-serving, arrogant and tragic response that an individual could have to a world-wide discussion that could have been. What is good? What's bad? What's happening with COVAX to help the bad? What's happening with work, school, events etc? What's happening with rates, with deaths? What's happening economically? What about the borrowing? The schemes still running? The support for people?

Doesn't need a white paper or a peer-reviewed journal publishing, but just a few more people interested in a discussion instead of shouting, throwing insults and generally being total
some very good points eloquently put, bravo.

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NSW and Victoria do have the highest vaccination rates, the reason for that is they've both had widespread outbreaks of community transmission and long lock downs, which does 'encourage' people to get vaccinated. The Federal government also reduced the allocated supply of vaccines to other States to increase NSW and Victoria's supplies during their outbreaks, which IMO was the right thing to do but it did impact on the number of vaccines available in WA and other States.

I can't claim to know everyone in WA but I do know a fair few! I don't see a disproportionate (to other States) number of anti-vaxxers, but I have seen the same complacency among some people which mirrors that of NSW and Vic before the boom lowered.

Covid will come to WA, I think the majority of people over here realise that (anti-vaxxers excluded). While it's a shame that some people have to see deaths in their community to prompt them to get the vaccine, I don't agree that just allowing the virus to rip is the right thing to do if there are alternatives. WA's numbers of partly and fully vaccinated are increasing daily.

I know that Mark McGowan is on the nose in the East, but I think he's done the right thing by West Australians with the hard border. It's hard to argue against that when considering that apart from a few short lockdowns/restriction periods, we've been free to do and go where we want within our State. Most importantly, the number of deaths from community transmission has been comparatively tiny.

I know the hard border has made life difficult and stressful for some people, including a family member, and that's horrible. But Covid is horrible too.

Anyway, that's my opinion, given as I'm sitting in my courtyard waiting till it's time to go to the dentist. I hate going to the dentist
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Over the last couple of years the 3 premieres I've come to thoroughly dislike are Andrews, Pinochet and McGowan although not necessarily in that order. They may have attempted to keep their own states safe, but in doing so they've sent a big **** you to other states, and the 3 in question have undoubtedly used covid as a political tool. Unforgivable in my book. Most other premieres have steered clear of boasting about lack of cases, and have only locked anyone out when absolutely necessary. McGowan's zero case philosophy is going to bite him and WA in the arse, and he runs the risk of rendering WA irrelevant, especially if Qantas decide to make the Darwin arrangement a long term one.

Gladys has been my favourite one so far, but unfortunately she's a lying cow so she's gone.

They're my thoughts anyway.


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Here's the whole post....again



Here's the post you were replying to above;



Happy to help discuss these in their entirety, but in short, so we can draw a line under this deliberate attempt to make it look like I'm saying something I'm not;

1. Scamp makes point that the UK is light years ahead of some countries in the covid 'recovery' journey.
2. Eruption of anger and bluster and bullshit from morons who think that means 'UK IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY SPAIN'
3. Comment from Ami, probably (she loves me)
4. More comments, totally ignoring there is more to the world than white, western nations.
5. More bemusement from me at people being that ****ing dumb.
6. I share some stats about some random nations - it seems nobody on here has any idea or interest in what is happening beyond the end of their nose....unless Hancock is involved in Africa, then suddenly the continent becomes important again
7. Ami probably chimed in again, just can't get enough.
8. You go on another Australian charge, choose to 'defend' a nation or make it look better than the UK when there was no need to. Nobody had said it was a failure or success. It's a weird complex.
9. I responded to Ami at last, bless her.
10. Here we are. Scamp explaining, again, that a comment made about the comparative success of the UK's journey out of lockdowns and restrictions and back to normality etc is actually, 100% cast iron, light years ahead of some countries. Impenetrable fact. Pick a country in the world to debate the difference between - totally different comment. Shouting about Spain or Australia or Mngolia or Namibia being better because that's where you're based or the country you prefer is probably the worst, most self-serving, arrogant and tragic response that an individual could have to a world-wide discussion that could have been. What is good? What's bad? What's happening with COVAX to help the bad? What's happening with work, school, events etc? What's happening with rates, with deaths? What's happening economically? What about the borrowing? The schemes still running? The support for people?

Doesn't need a white paper or a peer-reviewed journal publishing, but just a few more people interested in a discussion instead of shouting, throwing insults and generally being total
Wouldn't dare to shorten your post, but I think this was a conversation starting weeks (OK, days) ago and it wasn't Ami who responded but me ... Annetje who dared to shorten your post and responded to the "lightyears ahead" point. After that I went for a walk and forgot about it.
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
good luck at the dentist 👍

Over the last couple of years the 3 premieres I've come to thoroughly dislike are Andrews, Pinochet and McGowan although not necessarily in that order. They may have attempted to keep their own states safe, but in doing so they've sent a big **** you to other states, and the 3 in question have undoubtedly used covid as a political tool. Unforgivable in my book. Most other premieres have steered clear of boasting about lack of cases, and have only locked anyone out when absolutely necessary. McGowan's zero case philosophy is going to bite him and WA in the arse, and he runs the risk of rendering WA irrelevant, especially if Qantas decide to make the Darwin arrangement a long term one.

Gladys has been my favourite one so far, but unfortunately she's a lying cow so she's gone.

They're my thoughts anyway.
Every state closed borders - federal government closed the international border.

That you don't like certain premiers may be down to personal circumstances, but I don't see that WA or QLD have done anything different to NT, SA or TAS. Not sure whether ACT closed borders or not so will not comment on that territory.
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