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Old Sep 21st 2021, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Expatrick View Post
& who decided to call it Covishield?
Presumably Serum Institute trade name--similar reasons when deciding on the name Vaxzevria?
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Old Sep 21st 2021, 6:27 pm
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This topic was mentioned on the 'Coronavirus' thread regarding Canada. The ludicrous situation when a vaccine is given a different 'name'--when used in a different country to the origin.
The latest ---those people vaccinated with two doses of Astra Zeneca produced in India and called there 'Covishield' are classed as unvaccinated when arriving in UK from India and have to self-isolate.
The same Astra Zeneca vaccine that has been exported from there and used by UK NHS.

(Liz Truss will be 'got at' at the UN General Assembly today!)
I get it now.

It seems that you would be happy for recipients to be misled as to the origin of the vaccine.
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Old Sep 21st 2021, 6:53 pm
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I get it now.

It seems that you would be happy for recipients to be misled as to the origin of the vaccine.

The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine originated/developed in the UK. The vaccine is manufactured and sold in other sites and different 'brand' names have been given' for sale purposes.
In the UK regardless of whether manufactured in UK or India, recipients were told that they received the Astra Zeneca vaccine not Vaxevria or Covishield.

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The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine originated/developed in the UK. The vaccine is manufactured and sold in other sites and different 'brand' names have been given' for sale purposes.
In the UK regardless of whether manufactured in UK or India, recipients were told that they received the Astra Zeneca vaccine not Vaxevria or Covishield.
Here our certificates clearly stated Vaxzevria (note spelling). Fortunately the Covishield batch numbers have now been publicised in the UK, post delivery.


All rather at odds with your jingoistic attitude regarding the SII some months ago.
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Originally Posted by Expatrick View Post
Here our certificates clearly stated Vaxzevria (note spelling). Fortunately the Covishield batch numbers have now been publicised in the UK, post delivery.


All rather at odds with your jingoistic attitude regarding the SII some months ago.

Yes the EU were/are late in authorising 'named' Astra Zeneca from India (in spite of complaining about not getting enough imported!)
Apologies for mis-spelling,
Presumably COVAX -UN have no problem with Covishield apart from complaining not enough exported



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Yes the EU were/are late in authorising 'named' Astra Zeneca from India (in spite of complaining about not getting enough imported!)
Apologies for mis-spelling,
Presumably COVAX -UN have no problem with Covishield apart from complaining not enough exported
Authorisation follows an application. Late application means late authorisation.

Interesting how you try to blame the EU.
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Old Sep 21st 2021, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Expatrick View Post
Authorisation follows an application. Late application means late authorisation.

Interesting how you try to blame the EU.
Ms von der Leyen apologised for her delays regarding vaccines. I presume the 50+ countries that received imports from India were happy (including UK, EU, Canada)
Interesting is your attitude to AstraZeneca vaccine manufactured outside of UK!


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Ms von der Leyen apologised for her delays regarding vaccines. I presume the 50+ countries that received imports from India were happy (including UK, EU, Canada)
Interesting is your attitude to AstraZeneca vaccine manufactured outside of UK!
Obfuscation again! We are not talking about delays in procurement but the lack of authorisation and the obscuring (in the UK) of the source of some AZ derived vaccines.

Probably time you declared your interest in the SII.
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Old Sep 21st 2021, 9:16 pm
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Obfuscation again! We are not talking about delays in procurement but the lack of authorisation and the obscuring (in the UK) of the source of some AZ derived vaccines.

Probably time you declared your interest in the SII.

The 'obfuscation' is yours----my post pointed out the ludicrous situation that individuals arriving in the UK are classed as 'unvaccinated' when they have received the same vaccine (and manufactured at the same site) as many vaccinated in the UK. (That Liz Truss will be discussing it in New York.)
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Old Sep 21st 2021, 10:10 pm
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It's normal, and everything is fine.
"Health and vaccine experts tell Global News that the renaming really is just a part of the normal regulatory process that the vaccines have to undergo and that their old names would most likely stick in the long run. Scott Halperin, director of the Canadian Centre for Vaccinology and professor at Dalhousie University, explained that the renaming was not Health Canada’s choice, but rather a branding exercise decided by the vaccine makers themselves."
https://globalnews.ca/news/8201532/p...mes-explainer/
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Old Sep 21st 2021, 10:44 pm
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I have no idea what version of AZ I got, all it says is Astra Zeneca with whatever that random mess is after Astra Zeneca, at the time I got mine we had both US and India produced vaccine being used in BC.



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Yeah the branding of the vaccines shouldn't shock anyone, pretty much every drug produced has a marketing name for non-generic versions, Advil, Tylenol, Viagra, Cymbalta, Abreva etc etc US TV is field with commercials advertising all the name brand drugs.

Motrin IB or Advil 2 different names, same drug.

Flu vaccines get branding too such as Afluria Tetra2, Fluenz, FluMist, Flulaval, Influvac are a few I found online.






Originally Posted by caretaker View Post
It's normal, and everything is fine.
"Health and vaccine experts tell Global News that the renaming really is just a part of the normal regulatory process that the vaccines have to undergo and that their old names would most likely stick in the long run. Scott Halperin, director of the Canadian Centre for Vaccinology and professor at Dalhousie University, explained that the renaming was not Health Canada’s choice, but rather a branding exercise decided by the vaccine makers themselves."
https://globalnews.ca/news/8201532/p...mes-explainer/
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Old Sep 22nd 2021, 1:28 am
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Originally Posted by Expatrick View Post
& who decided to call it Covishield?
My mother in law had her first AZ shot at the local pharmacy. According to her pharmacy account they are using the names
CHADOX1-S [RECOMBINANT] Trade name: COVISHIELD COVID-19 VACC

That was recorded in April.
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"A Texas couple wore face masks at a restaurant to protect their immunocompromised infant. The owner asked them to leave"

Ok, the owner's right, presumably, but wtf is the matter with Texas?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/us/no...rnd/index.html
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Old Sep 22nd 2021, 3:24 am
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"A Texas couple wore face masks at a restaurant to protect their immunocompromised infant. The owner asked them to leave"

Ok, the owner's right, presumably, but wtf is the matter with Texas?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/us/no...rnd/index.html
Texas saw Florida getting all the attention so they decided they needed to out Florida, Florida then add a little extra with some backwards thinking laws.

Until Texans and Texas companies suffer, the morons in charge wont change, boycott any and all Texas companies and let them know, really only the way, hit them where it hurts in their pocket book.

This man who owns that sports bar he is why I don't automatically support small businesses blindly, we have more than a fair few of those types here in BC, luckily they make their moronic views loud and clear and easy to avoid, they even put together a list of all of the anti-mask and anti-covid business owners, they made the list for their followers cold support them, but makes it easy for people like me, to use that list to avoid them.

Maybe I am jaded because every small business I worked for sucked and the owners think your slaves, and made Wal-Mart look like paradise.



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