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BristolUK Sep 28th 2020 10:11 pm

The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 
There's a feeling going around in some quarters that we are experiencing the dawning of a new age of Conservatism. Or perhaps right wing populism.

From today's news:
Portugal records surge in racist violence as far right rises
There's been a growing number of racist incidents including murder, death threats and beatings.

Far-right German politician sacked for reportedly suggesting migrants could be killed
A prominent official of the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) told a young blogger in February that the worse off Germany is, the better it would be for his party, and that migrants coming to the country “could still be shot later on … or gassed”
He's been sacked but

AfD has come under heightened scrutiny from Germany’s domestic intelligence agency amid concern that some factions are flirting with extremism
Fred Perry withdraws polo shirt adopted by far-right Proud Boys Company distances itself from US fascist group as it halts sales of garment in North America

The fashion brand Fred Perry has pulled one of its famous polo shirt designs after it became associated with a far-right organisation. The company has halted sales of the black and yellow top in the US and Canada, after it was adopted by the neo-fascist organisation the Proud Boys.
Is there a new dawn? Is it attracting the wrong people?

Incidentally, all three reports are also covered by the daily mail and plenty of other social media sources so it's not just some fake news put about by "leftist main stream news". Why can I not keep a straight face typing that? :lol:

Lion in Winter Sep 28th 2020 10:14 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12915608)
There's a feeling going around in some quarters that we are experiencing the dawning of a new age of Conservatism. Or perhaps right wing populism.

From today's news:
Portugal records surge in racist violence as far right rises
There's been a growing number of racist incidents including murder, death threats and beatings.

Far-right German politician sacked for reportedly suggesting migrants could be killed
A prominent official of the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) told a young blogger in February that the worse off Germany is, the better it would be for his party, and that migrants coming to the country “could still be shot later on … or gassed”
He's been sacked but
Fred Perry withdraws polo shirt adopted by far-right Proud Boys Company distances itself from US fascist group as it halts sales of garment in North America


Is there a new dawn? Is it attracting the wrong people?

Incidentally, all three reports are also covered by the daily mail and plenty of other social media sources so it's not just some fake news put about by "leftist main stream news". Why can I not keep a straight face typing that? :lol:


They're all a load of ***** and back in the 70s we knew what to do with them :)


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b824744e9b.jpg




Jsmth321 Sep 28th 2020 10:40 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 
If the far right right their wet dreamland, give them Mississippi, Louisiana, & Kentucky. These are the 1, 2 and 5th most dependent states on federal money, the far right gets their wacko land. Bet they beg to come back within 5 years. :sarcasm:




paulry Sep 28th 2020 11:09 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12915610)
They're all a load of ***** and back in the 70s we knew what to do with them :)


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b824744e9b.jpg

Yep, these days your lot are running around as the ironically named Antifa. So how's that going? :sneaky:

BristolUK Sep 30th 2020 10:54 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 
President of the USA not only refuses to condemn white supremacists but asks them to stand by.

BristolUK Oct 2nd 2020 3:50 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 
After surviving far right violence in Charlottesville, Emily Gorcenski has tracked the Proud Boys and other extremist groups

The far-right Proud Boys group, whom Donald Trump refused to denounce this week, have been linked to assaults on protesters, white supremacist organizing, the spread of Covid misinformation and other threats against Americans...Far-right violence has escalated dramatically under Trump, who has ignored his own government’s domestic terrorism warnings and encouraged vigilante violence
Can anyone explain why this is okay with people who claim not to be racist?

Red Eric Oct 3rd 2020 7:25 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12917481)

Is that the far right, white supremacist, neo-fascist Proud Boys or the socialist ethno-nationalist version?

paulry Oct 3rd 2020 8:06 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12917873)
Is that the far right, white supremacist, neo-fascist Proud Boys or the socialist ethno-nationalist version?

Very nice.

....Except they're not white supremacists.

https://thenewamerican.com/proud-boy...ite-supremacy/

https://defconnews.com/2020/10/01/no...-supremacists/


DaveLovesDee Oct 3rd 2020 10:22 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12917883)

The New American is a politically right-wing print and digital magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society, a far-right organization.

"Def-Con News is conservative news, definitely. It’s also conservative news defiantly, because we’re out to counter the liberal media push to demonize conservatives and silence conservative points of view." So another right-wing website.

See, you can whine about the Guardian being leftist when it is fairly balanced., I can point out that your sources are from the far-right.


paulry Oct 3rd 2020 11:23 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12917915)
The New American is a politically right-wing print and digital magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society, a far-right organization.

"Def-Con News is conservative news, definitely. It’s also conservative news defiantly, because we’re out to counter the liberal media push to demonize conservatives and silence conservative points of view." So another right-wing website.

See, you can whine about the Guardian being leftist when it is fairly balanced., I can point out that your sources are from the far-right.

The Guardian might be fairly balanced according to your world view but it is very widely known that it is a leftist news paper. If it were fairly balanced why does it not have a loyal conservative readership? As for the two news sites I posted sure they are conservative news . But if you pretend for long enough to read them that they are not conservative nor leftist and check the information relating to the news stories I posted you'll find it checks out. Proud Boys is not a white supremacist outfit - it's president is Latino with African ancestry, it has black members, they have repeatedly openly condemned white supremacy - and if you have the courage to watch the video you'll see the leader doing that. And nothing in their constitution suggests they are. ....Meanwhile the Guardian drones on about them being white supremacist :yawn: ....And meanwhile the left continues to be obsessed with race, gender, etc. :yawn:

Red Eric Oct 3rd 2020 11:48 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12917925)
The Guardian might be fairly balanced according to your world view but it is very widely known that it is a leftist news paper.

Widely known ..... to whom? :unsure:


Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12917925)
If it were fairly balanced why does it not have a loyal conservative readership?

It does.

The larger part of even strongly conservative posters on BE are regular readers and not a few post links to articles in it. Away from BE, there's also a huge army of loyal regular readers keen to post their conservative take below the line on any article the moment comments open.

Red Eric Oct 3rd 2020 11:54 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12917925)
....Meanwhile the Guardian drones on about them being white supremacist :yawn: ....

"I condemn all white supremacists, I condemn the Proud Boys"

Who said that?

A) The Guardian
B) Donald J. Trump

DaveLovesDee Oct 3rd 2020 12:35 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12917925)
The Guardian might be fairly balanced according to your world view but it is very widely known that it is a leftist news paper. If it were fairly balanced why does it not have a loyal conservative readership? As for the two news sites I posted sure they are conservative news . But if you pretend for long enough to read them that they are not conservative nor leftist and check the information relating to the news stories I posted you'll find it checks out. Proud Boys is not a white supremacist outfit - it's president is Latino with African ancestry, it has black members, they have repeatedly openly condemned white supremacy - and if you have the courage to watch the video you'll see the leader doing that. And nothing in their constitution suggests they are. ....Meanwhile the Guardian drones on about them being white supremacist :yawn: ....And meanwhile the left continues to be obsessed with race, gender, etc. :yawn:

Eric seems to have this covered well-enough...


Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12917932)
Widely known ..... to whom? :unsure:


It does.

The larger part of even strongly conservative posters on BE are regular readers and not a few post links to articles in it. Away from BE, there's also a huge army of loyal regular readers keen to post their conservative take below the line on any article the moment comments open.

Excellent post!


Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12917934)
"I condemn all white supremacists, I condemn the Proud Boys"

Who said that?

A) The Guardian
B) Donald J. Trump

Stand back, and stand by!.... I know the answer to this.... It's, it's... Um.

Lion in Winter Oct 3rd 2020 2:02 pm

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12917925)
The Guardian might be fairly balanced according to your world view but it is very widely known that it is a leftist news paper. If it were fairly balanced why does it not have a loyal conservative readership? As for the two news sites I posted sure they are conservative news . But if you pretend for long enough to read them that they are not conservative nor leftist and check the information relating to the news stories I posted you'll find it checks out. Proud Boys is not a white supremacist outfit - it's president is Latino with African ancestry, it has black members, they have repeatedly openly condemned white supremacy - and if you have the courage to watch the video you'll see the leader doing that. And nothing in their constitution suggests they are. ....Meanwhile the Guardian drones on about them being white supremacist :yawn: ....And meanwhile the left continues to be obsessed with race, gender, etc. :yawn:

You see, your mistake is that you think that people must think or behave a certain way due to the colour of their skin. You are a true racist. "They aren't a white supremacist group because there are people in it who are not completely white". You should read up on the one-drop rule - you would fit right in.

Educate yourself on these thugs. I mean, we know you won't but I'd hate for passers by to think that anyone else on this site thinks like you. They don't. And won't, no matter how much sewage you post.

"Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers".

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...oup/proud-boys

paulry Oct 4th 2020 1:55 am

Re: The New Conservative Age - a good thing?
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12917932)
The larger part of even strongly conservative posters on BE....

The larger part of conservative posters on BE. :lol: How many is that do you reckon? 2? 3?

...There's hardly any conservative posters left on BE.




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