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Old Mar 26th 2020, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by GeniB View Post
Those deaths are coming from the critical list Eric .. and the new totals from the previously ' suspected cases'... Its difficult to do the math when every case has the ability to infect at least 23 other people
Has your area been 'sprayed ' as well ?
Yes, the math certainly seems to be a little problematical. All those numbers - I mean, who knows where they come from?

And yes, our local town had notices up advising that the streets are to be disinfected - weekly, I think.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 9:39 am
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Are you the UAE ? ( sorry my Geography is pants ) If you are you have 333 cases right now and 2 deaths so I guess lock down is imminent
Yes, in the UAE.
They've announced a lockdown for the weekend and they're going to disinfect / spray / sanitize all public transport stations etc etc.
It's a great idea as people won't be trusted to not go out.
If I'm honest though, we're basically 99% locked-down anyway.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 12:58 pm
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It's surely not an 'essential business' and we now know that the virus carries on paper and packages.. They should abide by the lock down rules and close like everyone else
Amazon delivers groceries too.

Also, they've tried to let ecommerce companies stay open so most warehouse staff are exempt IIRC.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 1:26 pm
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Been concerned about the 'leaf blowing ' activities for awhile for conservation reasons.. Now it 's about blowing the virus spores about from house to house .. Luckily the gardeners around us have ceased and desisted in using them. A lot of old fashioned clipping and sweeping by hand going on altho not much of that. Suspect owners have given them notice to remain away for awhile. We got a shock on Tuesday when our pool guy turned up two days early . OH met him on the steps to the pump room which is hidden below the pool. Aghhhh. Not really the distancing we would hope for. He did back up and go back to the pool area whilst we passed by at a six foot distance., me apologising profusely in my broken Portuguese . He yelled across that he would take care of our pool, as we were one of his year round clients The rest he was letting go for the duration....He's a lovely guy and I felt terrible for treating him like a leper.. ...
Viruses don't produce spores, and unless someone's been licking the leaves there won't be any hanging out there to be blown into your garden, so don't worry about that.

Leaf Blowers will still produce both pollution of both the air and noise variety, of course, but they won't spread the 'rona.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 2:23 pm
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It's surely not an 'essential business' and we now know that the virus carries on paper and packages.. They should abide by the lock down rules and close like everyone else
One Amazon delivery van is keeping hundreds of people off the streets every week. In an imperfect world, Amazon is helping more than hindering the lock-down efforts.

Also the chances of you truly "locking down" much of America is slim to none. Between the myriad of exceptions for workers and for permitted journeys, the virus deniers, the people who fear for their jobs, the minimal social safety net if you are out of work, etc, etc, not to mention the minimal police resources (there is a good reason why US cops carry guns and use them frequently), the scope for controlling the disease by "lock-down" in the US is unfortunately rather limited.

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Old Mar 26th 2020, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
One Amazon delivery van is keeping hundreds of people off the streets every week. In an imperfect world, Amazon is helping more than hindering the lock-down efforts.
Delivery drivers of all flavors are absolutely essential. Imagine if the teamsters decided to go on strike right now, we'd find out just how essential they are in a matter of seconds. And it wouldn't be a fun time.
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What's it like in your house Pulaski in lockdown.I know what you are like when you can not get a steak
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by el collado kid View Post
What's it like in your house Pulaski in lockdown. I know what you are like when you can not get a steak. ....
Thank you for asking, we had steak for dinner last night.
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Delivery drivers of all flavors are absolutely essential. Imagine if the teamsters decided to go on strike right now, we'd find out just how essential they are in a matter of seconds. And it wouldn't be a fun time.

We might finally find out where Hoffa is though.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 5:32 pm
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We might finally find out where Hoffa is though.
I doubt it - it is likely that everyone who has first-hand knowledge of what happened to him is already dead (a 40 year old when Hoffa disappeared would be 84 today), leaving just rumour and speculation, so if he is ever found it is likely just to be random luck IMO.
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One Amazon delivery van is keeping hundreds of people off the streets every week. In an imperfect world, Amazon is helping more than hindering the lock-down efforts.

Also the chances of you truly "locking down" much of America is slim to none. Between the myriad of exceptions for workers and for permitted journeys, the virus deniers, the people who fear for their jobs, the minimal social safety net if you are out of work, etc, etc, not to mention the minimal police resources (there is a good reason why US cops carry guns and use them frequently), the scope for controlling the disease by "lock-down" in the US is unfortunately rather limited.
That, as the US is crowned with the world's fastest spread of the virus.

Now, it's not getting much better in Italy or Spain, but at this rate, the US may very well become the hardest hit country on earth in just a few days' time.
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Blame is a useless exercise at this point. But yes, the US was quite late at taking it seriously. Now it's ill prepared, has to spend itself into oblivion just to catch up. And that's pretty tough for a country that's enjoyed a few generations of prosperity and complacency.
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That, as the US is crowned with the world's fastest spread of the virus.

Now, it's not getting much better in Italy or Spain, but at this rate, the US may very well become the hardest hit country on earth in just a few days' time.
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Agreed, somewhat - though about half all the cases are in NYC or adjoining counties, which is hardly surprising given the population density and reliance on public transport, and most of the rest are in the largest cities.

In my neck of the woods, the county has yet to reach double digits in numbers of cases - and it is a different sort of "population density" that may cause the disease to spread further.
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Blame is a useless exercise at this point. But yes, the US was quite late at taking it seriously. ....
That's not entirely true - the US restricted travel from China before anyone outside of China was taking the disease seriously, and most of the western world, including US Democrats, just accused Donald Trump of racism and pursuing a vendetta against China. .... The same people who are now accusing him of not doing enough, or moving fast enough!

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It's questionable, though, because at the time Trump restricted travel from China, he was still in the "hoax" train of thought, and was still saying it wouldn't affect the US. It appeared at the time as though Trump was just doing the usual snubbing of "others" in the interest of "MAGA". Or suspectably trying to gain election support. Or just trying to piss on China.

Now, maybe he and his cronies were actually beginning to take it seriously, but the appearance was that of yet another election gimmick. Some indeed may have interpreted it as "xenophobic", because well, he has form. And he had only just previously played it down as a "hoax" to make him "look bad" (as if that's the only thing China was thinking about). Also has form for that kind of self-centric thinking.

But agree with you on the point of it being centered around New York. Just as the Spanish numbers (and increases) are hugely centered around Madrid. But this thing spreads like wildfire if not contained. If people aren't forced to isolate, things could change a lot. Quickly. It might anyway, because no doubt lots more people are carrying it than anybody knows. And spreading it too.

Anyway, it's time to get serious now. Nothing to be trifled with.

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But agree with you on the point of it being centered around New York. Just as the Spanish numbers (and increases) are hugely centered around Madrid. But this thing spreads like wildfire if not contained. If people aren't forced to isolate, things could change a lot. Quickly. It might anyway, because no doubt lots more people are carrying it than anybody knows. And spreading it too.

Anyway, it's time to get serious now. Nothing to be trifled with.


Soon people will start fleeing NYC to the suburbs and it's spread will continue albeit at a slower pace,


Lots more cities to burn through in the USA, I just hope trump is finally starting to take it seriously, although with his continued open for Easter comments it's unlikely.
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