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Old Jul 20th 2020, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by Red Eric View Post
Personalities are one thing, policy another.

One thing's for sure - he won't be facing the same opposition his predecessor did, no matter what he does in terms of exerting control. It's natural that a leader chooses some supportive figures to work with, but that was always painted in very hostile terms when it came to Mr Corbyn, who actually didn't do anywhere near as much as he was accused of in the matter of running a tightly controlled regime. He never tried to oust the opposing voices from their senior positions, for example, or to castigate persistent offenders who damaged the party's chance of exerting influence on Brexit by consistently voting against the party line in tight votes.

But the language used in press reports about the leadership and that side of the party was consistently harsh, loaded and insinuating.
Personalities sell policies, perhaps.
Corbyn was like a magnet for shit in the press. Perhaps because he lacked any sort of personality and his policies were weird in places and his position and the party position on the EU was laughable.
BoJo is a panto clown, entertaining and if you don't listen to what he says (or doesn't say) it must be a chuckle to watch for a while. Tory policy was to get out the EU.
Those two make your point beautifully I think.

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The Tories have been consistently 5-7 points ahead of Labour over the last two months which is pretty remarkable given everything that’s being going on. The double digit lead disappeared during the Cummings fiasco but has remained fairly constant since then.
I think they'll stay that way for a while too. BoJo seems to have this wartime leadership mentality. It's not long before we talk of our 'darkest hour' in Covid-19. He'll be battered rightly for the government's response to a lot of this and probably come out of it with a bit of good feeling and pleasantries for 'getting us through it', maybe.

Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
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Old Jul 20th 2020, 2:47 pm
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I think they'll stay that way for a while too. BoJo seems to have this wartime leadership mentality. It's not long before we talk of our 'darkest hour' in Covid-19. He'll be battered rightly for the government's response to a lot of this and probably come out of it with a bit of good feeling and pleasantries for 'getting us through it', maybe.

Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election. As such Boris is more likely to be judged on his ability to reboot the economy post-pandemic/Brexit than the rather muddled approach to COVID-19.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis View Post
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election. As such Boris is more likely to be judged on his ability to reboot the economy post-pandemic/Brexit than the rather muddled approach to COVID-19.
I agree. That and re-uniting the nation - which copped a battering during the post referendum chaos.

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It's not a million miles different to what is happening across the pond.
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Good point actually. We often copy those ****wits don't we.
The anti-democratic bunch are the same the world over and they're certainly in lock step between the UK and the US right now - though the US definately takes the biscuit. Actually there are a lot of countries around the world that are currently engaged in similar fights but the right side is winning in nearly all of them.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis View Post
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election. As such Boris is more likely to be judged on his ability to reboot the economy post-pandemic/Brexit than the rather muddled approach to COVID-19.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
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Good stuff - Keir grows on me every day.

Looks like many agree with me too.
I just love his name I'd vote for a 'Star' right now.
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It may just be damage control but the more I see, the more I’m impressed.

Anti-Semitism: Labour pays damages for 'hurt' to whistleblowers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611
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Clearly they're trying to shake off their anti-Semitic infamy. But they'll have to do a lot more than that to make themselves electable again.
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Clearly they're trying to shake off their anti-Semitic infamy. But they'll have to do a lot more than that to make themselves electable again.
I’ll settle for a functional Opposition.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis View Post
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election.
I don't think it's ever wise to assume when it comes to the timing of UK elections.
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I don't think it's ever wise to assume when it comes to the timing of UK elections.
With a 80 seat majority I think it’s a fairly safe assumption to make.
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With a 80 seat majority I think it’s a fairly safe assumption to make.
Well, we'll see. You're probably right but the next 5 years were going to look turbulent enough in the UK already before this little gift from China reared its head and caused near record levels of unemployment and social and economic devastation.
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Old Jul 26th 2020, 9:35 am
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I don't think it's ever wise to assume when it comes to the timing of UK elections.
Very true....

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With a 80 seat majority I think it’s a fairly safe assumption to make.
...but this is undeniable.
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