Labour on the ropes
Jul 20th 2020, 5:54 am
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by Red Eric
Personalities are one thing, policy another.
One thing's for sure - he won't be facing the same opposition his predecessor did, no matter what he does in terms of exerting control. It's natural that a leader chooses some supportive figures to work with, but that was always painted in very hostile terms when it came to Mr Corbyn, who actually didn't do anywhere near as much as he was accused of in the matter of running a tightly controlled regime. He never tried to oust the opposing voices from their senior positions, for example, or to castigate persistent offenders who damaged the party's chance of exerting influence on Brexit by consistently voting against the party line in tight votes.
But the language used in press reports about the leadership and that side of the party was consistently harsh, loaded and insinuating.
One thing's for sure - he won't be facing the same opposition his predecessor did, no matter what he does in terms of exerting control. It's natural that a leader chooses some supportive figures to work with, but that was always painted in very hostile terms when it came to Mr Corbyn, who actually didn't do anywhere near as much as he was accused of in the matter of running a tightly controlled regime. He never tried to oust the opposing voices from their senior positions, for example, or to castigate persistent offenders who damaged the party's chance of exerting influence on Brexit by consistently voting against the party line in tight votes.
But the language used in press reports about the leadership and that side of the party was consistently harsh, loaded and insinuating.
Corbyn was like a magnet for shit in the press. Perhaps because he lacked any sort of personality and his policies were weird in places and his position and the party position on the EU was laughable.
BoJo is a panto clown, entertaining and if you don't listen to what he says (or doesn't say) it must be a chuckle to watch for a while. Tory policy was to get out the EU.
Those two make your point beautifully I think.
Originally Posted by BritInParis
The Tories have been consistently 5-7 points ahead of Labour over the last two months which is pretty remarkable given everything that’s being going on. The double digit lead disappeared during the Cummings fiasco but has remained fairly constant since then.
Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
Jul 20th 2020, 2:47 pm
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by Scamp
I think they'll stay that way for a while too. BoJo seems to have this wartime leadership mentality. It's not long before we talk of our 'darkest hour' in Covid-19. He'll be battered rightly for the government's response to a lot of this and probably come out of it with a bit of good feeling and pleasantries for 'getting us through it', maybe.
Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
Jul 20th 2020, 3:29 pm
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by BritInParis
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election. As such Boris is more likely to be judged on his ability to reboot the economy post-pandemic/Brexit than the rather muddled approach to COVID-19.
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Jul 20th 2020, 3:37 pm
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by paulry
It's not a million miles different to what is happening across the pond.
Originally Posted by Scamp
Good point actually. We often copy those ****wits don't we.
Jul 21st 2020, 5:18 am
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by BritInParis
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election. As such Boris is more likely to be judged on his ability to reboot the economy post-pandemic/Brexit than the rather muddled approach to COVID-19.
Jul 21st 2020, 11:04 am
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by jimenato
I'd vote for a 'Star' right now.
Jul 22nd 2020, 12:28 pm
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Re: Labour on the ropes
It may just be damage control but the more I see, the more I’m impressed.
Anti-Semitism: Labour pays damages for 'hurt' to whistleblowers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611
Anti-Semitism: Labour pays damages for 'hurt' to whistleblowers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611
Jul 22nd 2020, 11:06 pm
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by paulry
Clearly they're trying to shake off their anti-Semitic infamy. But they'll have to do a lot more than that to make themselves electable again.
Jul 26th 2020, 9:24 am
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by BritInParis
That sounds about right. A week is a long time in politics and we’ve got four years to go until the next election.
Jul 26th 2020, 9:30 am
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by BritInParis
With a 80 seat majority I think it’s a fairly safe assumption to make.
Jul 26th 2020, 9:35 am
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Re: Labour on the ropes
Originally Posted by DigitalGhost
I don't think it's ever wise to assume when it comes to the timing of UK elections.
Originally Posted by BritInParis
With a 80 seat majority I think it’s a fairly safe assumption to make.
