Labour on the ropes
#61

Personalities are one thing, policy another.
One thing's for sure - he won't be facing the same opposition his predecessor did, no matter what he does in terms of exerting control. It's natural that a leader chooses some supportive figures to work with, but that was always painted in very hostile terms when it came to Mr Corbyn, who actually didn't do anywhere near as much as he was accused of in the matter of running a tightly controlled regime. He never tried to oust the opposing voices from their senior positions, for example, or to castigate persistent offenders who damaged the party's chance of exerting influence on Brexit by consistently voting against the party line in tight votes.
But the language used in press reports about the leadership and that side of the party was consistently harsh, loaded and insinuating.
One thing's for sure - he won't be facing the same opposition his predecessor did, no matter what he does in terms of exerting control. It's natural that a leader chooses some supportive figures to work with, but that was always painted in very hostile terms when it came to Mr Corbyn, who actually didn't do anywhere near as much as he was accused of in the matter of running a tightly controlled regime. He never tried to oust the opposing voices from their senior positions, for example, or to castigate persistent offenders who damaged the party's chance of exerting influence on Brexit by consistently voting against the party line in tight votes.
But the language used in press reports about the leadership and that side of the party was consistently harsh, loaded and insinuating.
Corbyn was like a magnet for shit in the press. Perhaps because he lacked any sort of personality and his policies were weird in places and his position and the party position on the EU was laughable.
BoJo is a panto clown, entertaining and if you don't listen to what he says (or doesn't say) it must be a chuckle to watch for a while. Tory policy was to get out the EU.
Those two make your point beautifully I think.
Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
#62

I think they'll stay that way for a while too. BoJo seems to have this wartime leadership mentality. It's not long before we talk of our 'darkest hour' in Covid-19. He'll be battered rightly for the government's response to a lot of this and probably come out of it with a bit of good feeling and pleasantries for 'getting us through it', maybe.
Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
Odds on next election as it stands;
No majority 13/10
Cons majority 2/1
Labour majority 5/2
Lib Dem majority (lol) 66/1
#63

I agree. That and re-uniting the nation - which copped a battering during the post referendum chaos.
Last edited by paulry; Jul 20th 2020 at 4:39 pm.
#64

#65

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
#66


#67

It may just be damage control but the more I see, the more I’m impressed.
Anti-Semitism: Labour pays damages for 'hurt' to whistleblowers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611
Anti-Semitism: Labour pays damages for 'hurt' to whistleblowers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611
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#74

Well, we'll see. You're probably right but the next 5 years were going to look turbulent enough in the UK already before this little gift from China reared its head and caused near record levels of unemployment and social and economic devastation.
#75