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#817

Finally,
Great news for Labour.
Labour wins huge majority in local elections after Diane Abbott counts the votes
Great news for Labour.
Labour wins huge majority in local elections after Diane Abbott counts the votes
Labour is expected to gain more than eighty million seats after Diane Abbott was asked to count the votes this morning.
Speaking in that breathy, slightly creepy way she has, Abbott declared a huge landslide for Labour across the country – with the Conservatives and SNP facing ‘complete wipeout’ based on her figures.
Speaking in that breathy, slightly creepy way she has, Abbott declared a huge landslide for Labour across the country – with the Conservatives and SNP facing ‘complete wipeout’ based on her figures.

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Finally,
Great news for Labour.
Labour wins huge majority in local elections after Diane Abbott counts the votes
Great news for Labour.
Labour wins huge majority in local elections after Diane Abbott counts the votes
Labour is expected to gain more than eighty million seats after Diane Abbott was asked to count the votes this morning.
Speaking in that breathy, slightly creepy way she has, Abbott declared a huge landslide for Labour across the country – with the Conservatives and SNP facing ‘complete wipeout’ based on her figures.
Speaking in that breathy, slightly creepy way she has, Abbott declared a huge landslide for Labour across the country – with the Conservatives and SNP facing ‘complete wipeout’ based on her figures.


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#819

Before the election does away with the anticipation and uncertainty, this thread makes for some really interesting re-reading if reviewed from the beginning - especially around the time of Jeremy Corbyn's election. So much mockery and such absolute conviction! There'll be some choice titbits to recycle should there happen to be anything of a surprise on Thursday

Anyhow, for now, I found this article a very insightful read - here's a couple of samplers :
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...itical-climate


Anyhow, for now, I found this article a very insightful read - here's a couple of samplers :
For the past two years, it has been received wisdom that, when put before the national electorate, the Labour party under Corbyn was unelectable. Not simply that it would lose, but that there was no plausible way it could compete. These were not presented as opinions but as facts. Those who questioned them were treated like climate change deniers. Those who held the wisdom were the scientists. To take Labour’s prospects seriously under Corbyn was to abandon being taken seriously yourself.
But the principal problem with the notion of electability is that it is promoted on the premise that what has not been tried cannot possibly succeed. It suggests the way people see the world at any given moment cannot be changed through argument and activism and instead erects borders for what is permissible discussion and polices them determinedly. Those who dream outside those borders are utopian; those who speak outside them are fools.

#820

Before the election does away with the anticipation and uncertainty, this thread makes for some really interesting re-reading if reviewed from the beginning - especially around the time of Jeremy Corbyn's election. So much mockery and such absolute conviction! There'll be some choice titbits to recycle should there happen to be anything of a surprise on Thursday

Anyhow, for now, I found this article a very insightful read - here's a couple of samplers :
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...itical-climate


Anyhow, for now, I found this article a very insightful read - here's a couple of samplers :
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...itical-climate




#821
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Before the election does away with the anticipation and uncertainty, this thread makes for some really interesting re-reading if reviewed from the beginning - especially around the time of Jeremy Corbyn's election. So much mockery and such absolute conviction! There'll be some choice titbits to recycle should there happen to be anything of a surprise on Thursday

Anyhow, for now, I found this article a very insightful read - here's a couple of samplers :
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...itical-climate


Anyhow, for now, I found this article a very insightful read - here's a couple of samplers :
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...itical-climate

#822

Jeremy Corbyn voted AGAINST 17 different anti terror laws in his career as an MP
● 1984 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Outlawed NI terror groups.
● 1985 Updating the Prevention of Terrorism Act 1974: Gave emergency powers to police forces to quiz terror suspects travelling between Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
● 1989 Elected Authorities (Northern Ireland) Act 1989: Law that requires candidates for election in local and Northern Ireland Assembly to declare they will never support terrorism
● 1989 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Banned support for the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army
● 1989 Security Service Act: Established legal basis of the UK Security Service for the first time – giving security services the function of protecting the UK from terrorism
● 1991 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions): Allowed police to search sites for weapons and arms
● 1996 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act: Banned possession of items for terrorists
● 1998 Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act: Stricter punishment for being a member of terror group following the Omagh bombing.
● 2000 Terrorism Act: Redefined terrorism and gave police stop and search powers
● 2001 The Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscribed Organisations) (Amendment) Order: Statutory instrument banning Al-Qa’ida in a statutory instrument, 6 months before 9/11
● 2001 Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act: Following 9/11, indefinite holding without charge of suspects who cannot be deported.
● 2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Gave the Home Secretary the power to impose control orders on terror suspects
● 2006 Terrorism Act: Outlawed the “glorification” of terror following 7/7 bombings
● 2008 Counter-Terrorism Act: Banned communication of sensitive details about Armed Forces
● 2011 Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act: Replaced control orders with new powers to restrict the movement of suspects who could not be prosecuted or deported
● 2013 Justice and Security Act: Allowed secret hearings in courts on issues of national security
● 2014 Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act: Gave police emergency access to phone and internet records
And the two he abstained on:
● 2003 Criminal Justice Act: Modernising the criminal justice system, allows offences to be tried by a judge sitting alone without a jury
● 2016 Investigatory Powers Bill: To allow the bulk interception of communications, equipment interference, subject to certain safeguards.
Source UK Parliament
● 1984 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Outlawed NI terror groups.
● 1985 Updating the Prevention of Terrorism Act 1974: Gave emergency powers to police forces to quiz terror suspects travelling between Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
● 1989 Elected Authorities (Northern Ireland) Act 1989: Law that requires candidates for election in local and Northern Ireland Assembly to declare they will never support terrorism
● 1989 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Banned support for the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army
● 1989 Security Service Act: Established legal basis of the UK Security Service for the first time – giving security services the function of protecting the UK from terrorism
● 1991 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions): Allowed police to search sites for weapons and arms
● 1996 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act: Banned possession of items for terrorists
● 1998 Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act: Stricter punishment for being a member of terror group following the Omagh bombing.
● 2000 Terrorism Act: Redefined terrorism and gave police stop and search powers
● 2001 The Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscribed Organisations) (Amendment) Order: Statutory instrument banning Al-Qa’ida in a statutory instrument, 6 months before 9/11
● 2001 Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act: Following 9/11, indefinite holding without charge of suspects who cannot be deported.
● 2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Gave the Home Secretary the power to impose control orders on terror suspects
● 2006 Terrorism Act: Outlawed the “glorification” of terror following 7/7 bombings
● 2008 Counter-Terrorism Act: Banned communication of sensitive details about Armed Forces
● 2011 Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act: Replaced control orders with new powers to restrict the movement of suspects who could not be prosecuted or deported
● 2013 Justice and Security Act: Allowed secret hearings in courts on issues of national security
● 2014 Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act: Gave police emergency access to phone and internet records
And the two he abstained on:
● 2003 Criminal Justice Act: Modernising the criminal justice system, allows offences to be tried by a judge sitting alone without a jury
● 2016 Investigatory Powers Bill: To allow the bulk interception of communications, equipment interference, subject to certain safeguards.
Source UK Parliament

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Jeremy Corbyn voted AGAINST 17 different anti terror laws in his career as an MP
● 1984 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Outlawed NI terror groups.
● 1985 Updating the Prevention of Terrorism Act 1974: Gave emergency powers to police forces to quiz terror suspects travelling between Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
● 1989 Elected Authorities (Northern Ireland) Act 1989: Law that requires candidates for election in local and Northern Ireland Assembly to declare they will never support terrorism
● 1989 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Banned support for the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army
● 1989 Security Service Act: Established legal basis of the UK Security Service for the first time – giving security services the function of protecting the UK from terrorism
● 1991 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions): Allowed police to search sites for weapons and arms
● 1996 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act: Banned possession of items for terrorists
● 1998 Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act: Stricter punishment for being a member of terror group following the Omagh bombing.
● 2000 Terrorism Act: Redefined terrorism and gave police stop and search powers
● 2001 The Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscribed Organisations) (Amendment) Order: Statutory instrument banning Al-Qa’ida in a statutory instrument, 6 months before 9/11
● 2001 Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act: Following 9/11, indefinite holding without charge of suspects who cannot be deported.
● 2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Gave the Home Secretary the power to impose control orders on terror suspects
● 2006 Terrorism Act: Outlawed the “glorification” of terror following 7/7 bombings
● 2008 Counter-Terrorism Act: Banned communication of sensitive details about Armed Forces
● 2011 Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act: Replaced control orders with new powers to restrict the movement of suspects who could not be prosecuted or deported
● 2013 Justice and Security Act: Allowed secret hearings in courts on issues of national security
● 2014 Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act: Gave police emergency access to phone and internet records
And the two he abstained on:
● 2003 Criminal Justice Act: Modernising the criminal justice system, allows offences to be tried by a judge sitting alone without a jury
● 2016 Investigatory Powers Bill: To allow the bulk interception of communications, equipment interference, subject to certain safeguards.
Source UK Parliament
● 1984 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Outlawed NI terror groups.
● 1985 Updating the Prevention of Terrorism Act 1974: Gave emergency powers to police forces to quiz terror suspects travelling between Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
● 1989 Elected Authorities (Northern Ireland) Act 1989: Law that requires candidates for election in local and Northern Ireland Assembly to declare they will never support terrorism
● 1989 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act: Banned support for the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army
● 1989 Security Service Act: Established legal basis of the UK Security Service for the first time – giving security services the function of protecting the UK from terrorism
● 1991 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions): Allowed police to search sites for weapons and arms
● 1996 Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act: Banned possession of items for terrorists
● 1998 Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act: Stricter punishment for being a member of terror group following the Omagh bombing.
● 2000 Terrorism Act: Redefined terrorism and gave police stop and search powers
● 2001 The Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscribed Organisations) (Amendment) Order: Statutory instrument banning Al-Qa’ida in a statutory instrument, 6 months before 9/11
● 2001 Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act: Following 9/11, indefinite holding without charge of suspects who cannot be deported.
● 2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Gave the Home Secretary the power to impose control orders on terror suspects
● 2006 Terrorism Act: Outlawed the “glorification” of terror following 7/7 bombings
● 2008 Counter-Terrorism Act: Banned communication of sensitive details about Armed Forces
● 2011 Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act: Replaced control orders with new powers to restrict the movement of suspects who could not be prosecuted or deported
● 2013 Justice and Security Act: Allowed secret hearings in courts on issues of national security
● 2014 Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act: Gave police emergency access to phone and internet records
And the two he abstained on:
● 2003 Criminal Justice Act: Modernising the criminal justice system, allows offences to be tried by a judge sitting alone without a jury
● 2016 Investigatory Powers Bill: To allow the bulk interception of communications, equipment interference, subject to certain safeguards.
Source UK Parliament
Corbyn was right to vote against her bill.
You need to try harder Dick.

#824

You can tell he's rattled - he forgot to add the sunglasses.
Tell your handlers it's not news to any of us, will you Dick?
Tell your handlers it's not news to any of us, will you Dick?

#825

Dick has kindly reminded me - Corbyn's vote against allowing judges to sit without a jury. If ever anything were more fundamentally dangerous to the British way of life and our famous rule of law, it would have been that. Well done Jeremy and thanks to Dick for pointing it out again.
