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As title especially No's 8 & 1.

Top 8 Reasons NOT to Immigrate to Canada - www.*********.com

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8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
Immigration to Canada is based on a point system, obtained with your education, qualifications and job experience. Points are good enough for immigration, but in Canada, they are not good enough to get a job in your field. Amazing, how the credentials that qualify you to come to Canada are the same credentials that don't qualify you for your profession in Canada. The reason is, Canada only wants immigrants to do the labor jobs - pizza delivery, driving taxis, factory work etc.


7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
From rent, to utility bills, to shopping, to phone, internet and cable bills, to gas, to car insurance, to eating out, to basically anything you have to pay for or buy, the cost of living in Canada has become astronomical. Recent immigrants are astonished as to how expensive everything is. It is estimated that compared to most countries around the world, the cost of living in Canada is on average five times greater.


6. Health Care Crisis.
Practicing physicians in Canada are in a shortage, 1 in 4 Canadians cannot get a family doctor. Canadian doctors are leaving to move permanently to the United States. Statistics Canada and the Canadian Medical Association both have identified that for every 1 American doctor that moves to Canada, 19 (nineteen) Canadian doctors move to the United States! Doctors in Canada are overworked and underpaid, and there is a cap on their salaries.


5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada.


4. Money Hungry Government.
Canadian Embassies around the world lie to foreigners, painting this picture that Canada is Utopia, because they want them to come to Canada. Why? Because foreigners bring money! So after being deceived, these foreigners come. They must bring with them at least $10,000. Canada has an immigration quota of 250,000 per year. So please do the math, 250,000 multiplied by $10,000 each equals a whopping 2.5 Billion dollars that Canada gains from immigrants every year.


3. No Culture.
Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves with the country they 'originally' came from.


2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone.


1. No Jobs.
Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future.

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all of it....when you don't have no job....

and none of it.....when you got a job.
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8. Yes, great isn't it? That's why we all want to go there; shame it's not the same in the UK. If there is any hint of racial discrimination I am confused as when we landed we were the only people meeting the immigration officers that could speak English. The others weren't speaking French so how the hell did they get in on language abilities...?

7. It is probably going up because it's a des res. Don't know the details but it's probably comparable with other countries. Swings and roundabouts and depends where you go.

6. No idea; seems to have an enviable health service though.

5. Compare that comment to how the UK and many other European countries work but anyway, tax is one of life's two certainties

4. And the point will be...?

3. It's a young country and I will miss European history. Interested to learn about Canadian first nation history though.

2. Nobody should be in any doubt about that; shouldn't be a surprise.

1. Not finding a job does scare me but go back to point 4. That's why you need to bring enough money to support you until you do so you don't sponge off the state. Well done Canada; UK are you listening? Jobs are everywhere even in recession and Canada has a better economy than most so we can only hope for the best on the job search front.

Apparently that website is changing its name soon to sourgrapes.com.
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Originally Posted by Niceblokey View Post
As title especially No's 8 & 1.

Top 8 Reasons NOT to Immigrate to Canada - www.*********.com

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TOP 8 Reasons NOT to Immigrate to Canada

8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
Immigration to Canada is based on a point system, obtained with your education, qualifications and job experience. Points are good enough for immigration, but in Canada, they are not good enough to get a job in your field. Amazing, how the credentials that qualify you to come to Canada are the same credentials that don't qualify you for your profession in Canada. The reason is, Canada only wants immigrants to do the labor jobs - pizza delivery, driving taxis, factory work etc.


7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
From rent, to utility bills, to shopping, to phone, internet and cable bills, to gas, to car insurance, to eating out, to basically anything you have to pay for or buy, the cost of living in Canada has become astronomical. Recent immigrants are astonished as to how expensive everything is. It is estimated that compared to most countries around the world, the cost of living in Canada is on average five times greater.


6. Health Care Crisis.
Practicing physicians in Canada are in a shortage, 1 in 4 Canadians cannot get a family doctor. Canadian doctors are leaving to move permanently to the United States. Statistics Canada and the Canadian Medical Association both have identified that for every 1 American doctor that moves to Canada, 19 (nineteen) Canadian doctors move to the United States! Doctors in Canada are overworked and underpaid, and there is a cap on their salaries.


5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada.


4. Money Hungry Government.
Canadian Embassies around the world lie to foreigners, painting this picture that Canada is Utopia, because they want them to come to Canada. Why? Because foreigners bring money! So after being deceived, these foreigners come. They must bring with them at least $10,000. Canada has an immigration quota of 250,000 per year. So please do the math, 250,000 multiplied by $10,000 each equals a whopping 2.5 Billion dollars that Canada gains from immigrants every year.


3. No Culture.
Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves with the country they 'originally' came from.


2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone.


1. No Jobs.
Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future.

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12 Reasons to Move to Canada

1. Top personal tax bracket is 46% (combined federal and provincial). For that we get free schools, free healthcare and a social safety net that works.

2. Top corporate tax rate of 38% and a small business tax rate of 16.5%. The top corporate rate is scheduled to drop to 26% in five years.

3. Love in one of the safest places on earth. The crime rate is very low.

4. Freedom to travel abroad where all countries welcome you and like you.

5. A banking system that works. Sorry, no easy way to buy a home without 10% down at least.

6. Most populated cities do not have the risk of forest fires, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, mudslides or earthquakes.

7. A rich resource base in oil, gas, gold, copper, iron ore, lumber, potash, wheat and uranium.

8. A small population of 35 million. (Note from 2 Cents: I always say that Canada is a great place to live for introverts!

9. Real estate prices are very affordable.

10. A government system that works (most of the time). We are the Saudi Arabia of water resources.

11. We produce the best comedians in Hollywood, (Jim Carey, Mike Myers, Martin Short, Howie Mandel, Dan Aykroyd), some great actors (Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Pamela Anderson, Donald and Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Matthew Perry), some great musicians (Celine Dion, Bryan Adams, Bare Naked Ladies, Neil Young, Alanis Morissette, Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Anka, Rush).

12. If you believe global warming is coming, then Canada will have the best climate over the next 100 years!!

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8. Yes, great isn't it? That's why we all want to go there; shame it's not the same in the UK. If there is any hint of racial discrimination I am confused as when we landed we were the only people meeting the immigration officers that could speak English. The others weren't speaking French so how the hell did they get in on language abilities...?

7. It is probably going up because it's a des res. Don't know the details but it's probably comparable with other countries. Swings and roundabouts and depends where you go.

6. No idea; seems to have an enviable health service though.

5. Compare that comment to how the UK and many other European countries work but anyway, tax is one of life's two certainties

4. And the point will be...?

3. It's a young country and I will miss European history. Interested to learn about Canadian first nation history though.

2. Nobody should be in any doubt about that; shouldn't be a surprise.

1. Not finding a job does scare me but go back to point 4. That's why you need to bring enough money to support you until you do so you don't sponge off the state. Well done Canada; UK are you listening? Jobs are everywhere even in recession and Canada has a better economy than most so we can only hope for the best on the job search front.

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I have to agree with you. Now my query is with statement 1. There are members on here who are struggling to get work and looking at going to other cities for work.

Unless you mean there's jobs everywhere, whether it will be the job you ideally wanted is something else.
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I have to agree with you. Now my query is with statement 1. There are members on here who are struggling to get work and looking at going to other cities for work.

Unless you mean there's jobs everywhere, whether it will be the job you ideally wanted is something else.
Fair point - what I mean is there should be something similar to what you did before but maybe not so senior as there may be an element of having to work your way up again. (Also note that I am telling this to myself as much as you!).

Unless you do something really obscure like dodo counter, in which case you will struggle. For this reason I started moving jobs several years ago to mix up my CV a bit and not be too specialised in one field.
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hmm let's see...


8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
yes... the UK has a *much* better system doesn't it.... the flaw pointed out here seems to be that points will get you in but not get you a job. Why would you assume they would? Surely you do research before you go?

7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
hmm. Gas? Have they seen petrol costs in the UK lately?

6. Health Care Crisis.
At least there is some free health care, it's a better system than the US..

5. Very High Taxes.
15%? UK is 20%. Plus higher business taxes, flight taxes etc. This argument sounds like it's coming from a right-wing American point of view where no one should ever get any 'welfare' money..

4. Money Hungry Government.
Eh? Immigrants have to bring $10000 with them, which means Canada gets that money? That's an odd way to put it... immigrants don't have to pay that $10000 to the govt to emigrate, it just means they need money to live on when they arrive. Surely that's sensible?

3. No Culture.
It might not have a European quantity of history, but it does have First Nations history, and colonisation history, and Canadians are well-received around the world so it must mean something to be one..

2. Worst Weather.
Entirely subjective. And entirely dependent on where in Canada you are. I'm sure the US also has some of the worst weather conditions...

1. No Jobs.
In such a basic argument, are there 'jobs' anywhere right now? There are PhDs who can't get jobs in the UK too I'm sure. People with degrees from UK universities can't get jobs after graduation. I agree the job market is poor, but it's poor in the UK as well.

Canada isn't perfect... but I'd like to know where is!
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11. We produce the best comedians in Hollywood, (Jim Carey, Mike Myers, Martin Short, Howie Mandel, Dan Aykroyd), some great actors (Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Pamela Anderson, Donald and Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Matthew Perry), some great musicians (Celine Dion, Bryan Adams, Bare Naked Ladies, Neil Young, Alanis Morissette, Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Anka, Rush).
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Fantastic!.. I was dreading getting up today to the freezing cold house (can't afford to heat it) & I read this marvelous piece of comedy gold..

Thank you!.
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7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
If it hadn't been for the tumbling £ I wouldn't really notice.
Aside from the big jump in property tax a few years back we're still paying very similar prices for most things we buy.
5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase
Sounds a bit like VAT. Is that still more or is it even more now?
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12. If you believe global warming is coming, then Canada will have the best climate over the next 100 years!!

I don't believe that "global warming" means a warmer Canada, actually the opposite; if the current conditions that warm up Canada get adversely affected (like the Gulf stream fx) it will get even colder!
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11. We produce the best comedians in Hollywood, (Jim Carey, Mike Myers, Martin Short, Howie Mandel, Dan Aykroyd), some great actors (Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Pamela Anderson, Donald and Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Matthew Perry), some great musicians (Celine Dion, Bryan Adams, Bare Naked Ladies, Neil Young, Alanis Morissette, Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Anka, Rush).


But haven't they all moved to the US (like the doctors in 6. apparently)?
BTW - how do all those Canadian doctors get Green Cards?
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