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Old Jun 25th 2020, 10:30 pm
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Someone among them should have said "er no, it's just a garage door pull cord...".
Yes, of course it was.

Photo released.



Nascar asked officials at every track to check their garages this week. Nascar said out of 1,684 garage stalls at 29 tracks, only 11 had a garage door pull-down rope tied in a knot. The only one fashioned in a noose was the one discovered Sunday by a crew member in Wallace’s No. 43 garage stall.
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Old Jun 25th 2020, 10:40 pm
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I was just about to point out that it was in fact a noose. Thanks to BristolUK, for posting.

Paulry attempted to blame the person of color, with made up accusations. When its pointed out that those responsible are not people of colour, does he shift the blame to those people. or move his goalposts with new accusations against the person of colour?
NASCAR were right to do what they did. NASCAR are not backing down, while accepting it was not aimed directly at Mr Wallace, they are continuing their own investigation. A noose has meaning, particularly in the South. Its still a problem, even if of extreme ignorance, though it is as we all welcome, not the problem feared.
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Old Jun 25th 2020, 11:10 pm
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I was just about to point out that it was in fact a noose. Thanks to BristolUK, for posting.

Paulry attempted to blame the person of color, with made up accusations. When its pointed out that those responsible are not people of colour, does he shift the blame to those people. or move his goalposts with new accusations against the person of colour?
NASCAR were right to do what they did. NASCAR are not backing down, while accepting it was not aimed directly at Mr Wallace, they are continuing their own investigation. A noose has meaning, particularly in the South. Its still a problem, even if of extreme ignorance, though it is as we all welcome, not the problem feared.
Can you not see just how racist YOU are showing yourself to be? I don't give a monkeys what race any of the people concerned are, but you just keep going on and on about it with "people of color" this and "person of colour" that. You're behaving like a complete lunatic.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...-says/12386824

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Video shows the noose in the garage door cord was there in October 2019
The FBI said there was no way anyone could have known Wallace would be assigned that particular garage, and no crime had been committed
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Old Jun 25th 2020, 11:17 pm
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I don't give a monkeys what race any of the people concerned are
So you say. But as has been pointed out there's one party you kept blaming in this case. You said he overreacted or reacted too soon and then when you discover it was other people who reacted you still criticised him for not discussing it with the others.
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Old Jun 26th 2020, 12:32 am
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Yes, of course it was.

Photo released.


Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
I was just about to point out that it was in fact a noose. Thanks to BristolUK, for posting.

Paulry attempted to blame the person of color, with made up accusations. When its pointed out that those responsible are not people of colour, does he shift the blame to those people. or move his goalposts with new accusations against the person of colour?
NASCAR were right to do what they did. NASCAR are not backing down, while accepting it was not aimed directly at Mr Wallace, they are continuing their own investigation. A noose has meaning, particularly in the South. Its still a problem, even if of extreme ignorance, though it is as we all welcome, not the problem feared.

More from the coverage:

"The image was taken by Nascar security.“As you can see from the photo, the noose was real, as was our concern for Bubba,” Nascar president Steve Phelps said. “Based on the evidence we had, we thought our drivers – that one of our drivers had been threatened, a driver who had been extremely courageous in recent words and actions. It’s our responsibility to react and investigate, and that’s exactly what we did.”...
Wallace never saw the rope. He said Phelps came to see him Sunday night at the track with “tears running down his face.” He also told CNN: “ It was a noose. Whether it was tied in 2019 ... it is a noose. ”


Classic alt right thinking from Paulry - there's no real racism, there used to be but it's all fine now and everybody would be just fine if black people stopped kicking up such a fuss."
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Old Jun 26th 2020, 3:02 am
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Yes, of course it was.

Photo released.


That noose would cause just about anyone to worry, it's a well known symbol of hatred, racism and murder. I love the way everyone rallied around and showed their support for him. It doesn't even matter that the noose was eventually found to be 'innocent', the fact that his fellow drivers were so quick to support him is wonderful.
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That noose would cause just about anyone to worry, it's a well known symbol of hatred, racism and murder. I love the way everyone rallied around and showed their support for him. It doesn't even matter that the noose was eventually found to be 'innocent', the fact that his fellow drivers were so quick to support him is wonderful.
Agreed. Most normal people don't tie nooses for door pulls, particularly not with the history of the US, particularly in the south of the US, particularly in NASCAR which has had a bit of a reputation to live down and has only just now, because of heightened awareness, stopped flying the flag of slavery at its events. As was said, it wasn't aimed at this particular driver but why was it there in the first place.Had someone found it funny back in 2019? We'll never know, but I'm glad NASCAR and the other drivers acted as they did.
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Old Jun 26th 2020, 12:36 pm
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That noose would cause just about anyone to worry, it's a well known symbol of hatred, racism and murder. I love the way everyone rallied around and showed their support for him. It doesn't even matter that the noose was eventually found to be 'innocent', the fact that his fellow drivers were so quick to support him is wonderful.
While of course people are right to rally around those who are being threatened, in the current climate, can you imagine what would have happened to anyone there who didn't quickly, immediately and unquestioningly jump very enthusiastically and visibly to his support? Imagine if before all that blew up and went global if someone there had simply stood up and said said "Nah mate, that knot has been there for yonks....".

....And I bet whoever (most likely innocently) tied that knot is crapping himself in case he gets identified as the one.

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Old Jun 26th 2020, 1:10 pm
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....And I bet whoever (most likely innocently) tied that knot
Innocently tied or hung a Hangman's Noose.

That's what you're saying?

Use in intimidation and hate-based racial politics
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Innocently tied or hung a Hangman's Noose.

That's what you're saying?

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The illustration in the link, is of a "noose knot", if you look at a "hangman's noose" then you see it is the one found in the pit.
Paulry thinks it is likely that a hangman's noose was tied in "innocence" in the South. As likely as a swastika being painted on a synagogue by enthusiastic Hindus.
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Old Jun 26th 2020, 3:43 pm
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The illustration in the link, is of a "noose knot", if you look at a "hangman's noose" then you see it is the one found in the pit.
Paulry thinks it is likely that a hangman's noose was tied in "innocence" in the South. As likely as a swastika being painted on a synagogue by enthusiastic Hindus.
So sensitive in the South that the knot was very visibly in place from at least October last year, and no one had any objection to it or chose to take it down until recently? Why don't you just accept that most likely it was not put there to offend, and focus your thoughts on more positive things? I've found in life that most often the innocent explanation is the correct one.
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So sensitive in the South that the knot was very visibly in place from at least October last year, and no one had any objection to it or chose to take it down until recently? Why don't you just accept that most likely it was not put there to offend, and focus your thoughts on more positive things? I've found in life that most often the innocent explanation is the correct one.
Your naivety has been noted. The questions remains whether it is faux naivety or not.
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An 18-year-old biracial woman says four white men set her on fire at a stoplight in Madison, Wis., leaving her with second- and third-degree burns on her neck and face.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7111366/b...ire-white-men/
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Oh Canada https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53196474
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If our police wore cameras widespread like US police do we would probably hear/see more about Canadian police.

I'd be surprised if the cop in this story sees any real jail time, hopefully he will be fired though, and this tendency of suspended with pay needs to stop, if most of us were arrested and in a sensitive job, we would not get suspended with pay pending outcome of the case, so why do police?

A few recent issues in Canada.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/i-couldn-t-bre...heck-1.5001798

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...heck-1.5624810

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...lack-1.5622320

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