Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian

It took a couple of days to arrest and charge him. If he was a civilian he would have been arrested the same day.

At what point should have the officer been arrested? We have all seen the video so could he have been arrested while he was still kneeling on his neck? at the point where Mr Floyd was placed into the ambulance? or once it became known that he had died?
Who is responsible for his arrest and once the arrest is made certain legal procedures have to be followed and if not could lead to a finding of the arrest being unlawful. For arguments sake lets us say he was arrested that same day and he was given his Miranda rights. He would be then taken to a Police station for booking procedures. An official will compile the suspect's name, contact information, the nature of the alleged crime (including the code section), and other vital statistics. Once you're arrested and booked, your case is provided to the appropriate prosecutor's office where an independent decision is made as to what charges should be filed, if any. You have the right to a speedy trial, which usually means that the prosecutor must file any charges within 72 hours (48 hours in some states). A prosecutor is not bound by the initial charge decision and can later change the crimes charged once more evidence is obtained.

So you are the official at the booking centre at that particular time it is now your responsibility to record the applicable code section. Do you think you have sufficient information?

I am not having a go at you personally but as we can see it is not a simple as some people think.

Can you imagine the outrage had the officer been arrested and it was later established that his rights had been violated.
I suspect some will be wondering why he cant be sentenced on Monday as he was arrested on Friday and why it couldn't be a speedy trial. No matter what happens next some will say let the Justice System do it's job and there will be those who say Justice will never be done as the Justice System is corrupt, biased or whatever other term some will describe it as.

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian

It took a couple of days to arrest and charge him. If he was a civilian he would have been arrested the same day.

At what point should have the officer been arrested? We have all seen the video so could he have been arrested while he was still kneeling on his neck? at the point where Mr Floyd was placed into the ambulance? or once it became known that he had died?
Who is responsible for his arrest and once the arrest is made certain legal procedures have to be followed and if not could lead to a finding of the arrest being unlawful. For arguments sake lets us say he was arrested that same day and he was given his Miranda rights. He would be then taken to a Police station for booking procedures. An official will compile the suspect's name, contact information, the nature of the alleged crime (including the code section), and other vital statistics. Once you're arrested and booked, your case is provided to the appropriate prosecutor's office where an independent decision is made as to what charges should be filed, if any. You have the right to a speedy trial, which usually means that the prosecutor must file any charges within 72 hours (48 hours in some states). A prosecutor is not bound by the initial charge decision and can later change the crimes charged once more evidence is obtained.

So you are the official at the booking centre at that particular time it is now your responsibility to record the applicable code section. Do you think you have sufficient information?

I am not having a go at you personally but as we can see it is not a simple as some people think.

Can you imagine the outrage had the officer been arrested and it was later established that his rights had been violated.
I suspect some will be wondering why he cant be sentenced on Monday as he was arrested on Friday and why it couldn't be a speedy trial. No matter what happens next some will say let the Justice System do it's job and there will be those who say Justice will never be done as the Justice System is corrupt, biased or whatever other term some will describe it as.

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer

The other police officers should have stopped him. He should have been arrested the same day , since the evidence clearly shows the victim begging to breathe and the policeman not allowing him to do so. From the Mayor of Minneapolis "Why is the man who killed George Floyd not in jail?" Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said in a press conference Wednesday. "If you had done it, or I had done it, we would be behind bars right now."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...eo/5264887002/

Originally Posted by Boomhauer

The other police officers should have stopped him. He should have been arrested the same day , since the evidence clearly shows the victim begging to breathe and the policeman not allowing him to do so. From the Mayor of Minneapolis "Why is the man who killed George Floyd not in jail?" Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said in a press conference Wednesday. "If you had done it, or I had done it, we would be behind bars right now."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...eo/5264887002/

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter

Tbh, I'm just relieved that he was arrested and charged at all, which says something in itself. We will see how the trial goes. My main points are around the society that we have built that allows this sort of thing to happen again and again and again, whether the perpetrator is uniformed or not.

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian

So lets play a silly game why didn't that same person i.e The Mayor arrest him?

2019 Minnesota Statute and pay attention to subsection 629.37 paragraph 2

629.37 WHEN PRIVATE PERSON MAY MAKE ARREST.

A private person may arrest another:

(1) for a public offense committed or attempted in the arresting person's presence;

(2) when the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in the arresting person's presence; or

(3) when a felony has in fact been committed, and the arresting person has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it.

History:

(10573) RL s 5232; 1985 c 265 art 10 s 1

Actions speak louder than words.

Originally Posted by Boomhauer

I would guess because the culprit is a policeman and not a regular civilian, so even the mayor feels pressure and does not want to create a volatile situation. The law you state works in theory, but reality is quite different. How many cases are you aware of where a civilian or non piece carrying elected official make a citizen's arrest on a member of law enforcement?

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl

I wonder if much of the rioting/violence could have been avoided if the officers had been arrested earlier?

Originally Posted by Boomhauer

I would guess because the culprit is a policeman and not a regular civilian, so even the mayor feels pressure and does not want to create a volatile situation. The law you state works in theory, but reality is quite different. How many cases are you aware of where a civilian or non piece carrying elected official make a citizen's arrest on a member of law enforcement?

Originally Posted by anotherlimey

Most states give the cop the benefit of the doubt, and some have laws requiring a waiting period allowing police to get their stories in line before giving statements.

Just think what would happen if cameras weren't so prevalent.

Originally Posted by kimilseung

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