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Old Jun 5th 2020, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
Well, the police finally did something about looting.

Vallejo police kill unarmed 22-year-old, who was on his knees with his hands up
How long before Trump, or someone, informs us that this was ok because the guy was suspected of looting?

As for them being afraid that the man had a gun in his pocket (even though his hands were in the air, apparently, and it turned out to be a hammer) - well, concealed carry with a license is legal in California, and of course nobody had yet checked whether or not he had a license. So perhaps this is yet another reason not to have armed citizenry. It makes the police jumpy and that can get you killed.

Apparently that community was becoming more hopeful because the police hadn't killed anyone in just over a year Major celebration.
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Old Jun 5th 2020, 3:41 am
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I see Trump and Barr are being sued by the ACLU for gassing and charging peaceful protesters outside the White House so that Trump could do his unhinged photo op.
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Old Jun 5th 2020, 3:58 am
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Old Jun 5th 2020, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian View Post
Make of this what you will I am only quoting from a CNN online article

When Floyd's death took place, it was Kueng's third shift as a police officer, said Thomas Plunkett, his attorney. Chauvin, he added, was Kueng's training officer.
Plunkett said Kueng turned to Chauvin at one point and said, "You can't do this."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/ge...day/index.html

This article contains the charges and events.

https://www.startribune.com/3-minnea...ges/570989411/
I was wondering whether any of the accompanying officers was a recent recruit and what could reasonably be expected of him under those circumstances.
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I was wondering whether any of the accompanying officers was a recent recruit and what could reasonably be expected of him under those circumstances.
New recruit or not people will say he should have intervened or done more. Lane was also a rookie and this was his 4th shift as a full-time officer. Interesting is the fact that one of the officers Keung describes himself as African/American.
The defence attorneys will use this as part of the defence that 2 x rookies each told Chauvin that what he was doing was wrong and at those specific moments in time had no idea that Floyd would later die. Is it a defence to the general public then the answer is a resounding No.

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This is not a protest. This is not the spirit of Martin Luther King Junior. This is chaos. A protest has purpose. When Dr King was assassinated, this was not done in the cities. They are disgracing the life of George Floyd and every other person who has been killed in this country. If you want change in America, go and register to vote. Do it in November.
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Old Jun 5th 2020, 12:06 pm
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This is not a protest. This is not the spirit of Martin Luther King Junior. This is chaos. A protest has purpose. When Dr King was assassinated, this was not done in the cities. They are disgracing the life of George Floyd and every other person who has been killed in this country. If you want change in America, go and register to vote. Do it in November.
You could at least credit the mayor of Atlanta for this. These are her (verbatim) words after all.
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This is not a protest. This is not the spirit of Martin Luther King Junior. This is chaos. A protest has purpose. When Dr King was assassinated, this was not done in the cities. They are disgracing the life of George Floyd and every other person who has been killed in this country. If you want change in America, go and register to vote. Do it in November.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_a...20Civil%20War.

And we don't seem to have made nearly enough progress, do we.

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You could at least credit the mayor of Atlanta for this. These are her (verbatim) words after all.
You blew it - I was going to see who charged in and attacked me blindly for suggesting there was chaos and that anyone go home.

Too up on the news, you.

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Old Jun 5th 2020, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
Well, you too, at least on the speech which I am assuming may have gotten wide circulation in the US.

I tried to remove identifiers to not give it away.

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Old Jun 5th 2020, 12:15 pm
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Not trolling but making a point about social media mobs, which seemed to once again in many cases get carried away with hysteria. It was blindingly obvious to many of us that there was a difference between the rioters and the protesters right from the beginning but the mob (and the media) seemed very slow to recognise that.
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Originally Posted by carcajou View Post
Well, you too.

I tried to remove identifiers to not give it away.
Different link.

Read the content.
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Originally Posted by carcajou View Post
Not trolling but making a point about social media mobs, which seemed to once again in many cases get carried away with hysteria.
I have no idea what you are referring to, but social media isn't the point really, is it. There are more important things at stake than how people interact on social media.
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You blew it - I was going to see who charged in and attacked me blindly for suggesting anyone go home.

Too up on the news, you.
You wanted people online to attack you for something said by a black person, thinking it was you, so that you could then point out that it was said by a black person, and your theory is that this would illustrate "social media mobs"?

That's a bit sad, isn't it?
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US police seem to be all too often trained to treat people like enemy combatants. I mean, this old guy was hardly a threat, was he?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...loroquine-live

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