George Floyd
Jun 4th 2020, 5:35 pm
#196
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by kimilseung
This will not happen, it is no benefit to Trump. The cop is toxic. No one of note is defending the cop. I am only seeing "blue lives matter" posts in response to the demonstrations, not to the original incident.
Jun 4th 2020, 7:15 pm
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Now for the big question to invoke sensible discussion. As all 4 officers now charged how will they plead? If they all plead guilty then job done move onto sentencing but what if they all plead not guilty?
I suspect a number of lawyers are praying that none of the 4 will ask them to represent them for a not guilty plea. What happens if they cannot find a lawyer to represent them? Does the court have to appoint a public defender? Of course they could represent themselves. Any lawyers want to add their 2 cents worth?
I suspect a number of lawyers are praying that none of the 4 will ask them to represent them for a not guilty plea. What happens if they cannot find a lawyer to represent them? Does the court have to appoint a public defender? Of course they could represent themselves. Any lawyers want to add their 2 cents worth?
Suppose it will all boil down to what the DA and defense think their shot is with a jury. I guess the defendant could ask for a bench trial, might be hard to find an impartial jury in this case.
If they can afford a lawyer there will always be one willing to accept a high profile case, if they cannot afford one the state will have to provide one.
Originally Posted by Nutek
My prediction...
Three will plea and walk away.
One will go to prison.
Trump will let him out.
Three will plea and walk away.
One will go to prison.
Trump will let him out.
Jun 4th 2020, 8:05 pm
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by paulry
Regarding the protests here in Australia following George Floyd's murder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mhCjm4wB9w
Jacinta Price is absolutely spot on with her comments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mhCjm4wB9w
Jacinta Price is absolutely spot on with her comments.
ps this article isn't about the protests in Australia, it's about Ms Price herself.https://coffsharbourlalc.com.au/jaci...nal-community/
Jun 4th 2020, 10:15 pm
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Re: George Floyd
Jun 4th 2020, 11:27 pm
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
I make no comments for or against Ms Price's views, I just want, as a matter of balance for people unfamiliar with Australia, to point out that Ms Price's views are not widely representative of those of Indigenous Australian people. Then people can make their own minds up about the video, which is as it should be ps this article isn't about the protests in Australia, it's about Ms Price herself.
ps this article isn't about the protests in Australia, it's about Ms Price herself.
Jun 4th 2020, 11:55 pm
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by paulry
Jacinta Price is absolutely spot on with her comments.
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
I make no comments for or against Ms Price's views, I just want, as a matter of balance for people unfamiliar with Australia, to point out that Ms Price's views are not widely representative of those of Indigenous Australian people.
Originally Posted by paulry
I agree that Ms Price's views are not widely representative of those of Aboriginal Australian people, but that doesn't mean what she said is untrue or wrong. Anyone cross referencing what she said with the facts, would be hard pushed to find falsehoods.
She "saw a post on facebook"...well, that's proof enough then.
Jun 5th 2020, 12:17 am
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Re: George Floyd
Make of this what you will I am only quoting from a CNN online article
When Floyd's death took place, it was Kueng's third shift as a police officer, said Thomas Plunkett, his attorney. Chauvin, he added, was Kueng's training officer.
Plunkett said Kueng turned to Chauvin at one point and said, "You can't do this."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/ge...day/index.html
This article contains the charges and events.
https://www.startribune.com/3-minnea...ges/570989411/
When Floyd's death took place, it was Kueng's third shift as a police officer, said Thomas Plunkett, his attorney. Chauvin, he added, was Kueng's training officer.
Plunkett said Kueng turned to Chauvin at one point and said, "You can't do this."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/ge...day/index.html
This article contains the charges and events.
https://www.startribune.com/3-minnea...ges/570989411/
Last edited by Former Lancastrian; Jun 5th 2020 at 12:29 am.
Jun 5th 2020, 12:48 am
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Make of this what you will I am only quoting from a CNN online article
When Floyd's death took place, it was Kueng's third shift as a police officer, said Thomas Plunkett, his attorney. Chauvin, he added, was Kueng's training officer.
Plunkett said Kueng turned to Chauvin at one point and said, "You can't do this."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/ge...day/index.html
When Floyd's death took place, it was Kueng's third shift as a police officer, said Thomas Plunkett, his attorney. Chauvin, he added, was Kueng's training officer.
Plunkett said Kueng turned to Chauvin at one point and said, "You can't do this."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/ge...day/index.html
Gray, noting that Chauvin was a training officer, asked the judge: “What is my client supposed to do other than follow what the training officer said?”
“Is CPR probable cause for aiding and abetting a felony?” Gray asked.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/04/geor...rder-case.html
Don't know if the cop can afford the lawyer and is paying the bill or if the lawyer took up the case, but appears Earl Gray is a well known attorney in the Minneapolis area and was the defense attorney for Jeronimo Yanez in 2017 who had been charged with manslaughter and reckless discharge of a firearm and got an acquittal in that case.
Jun 5th 2020, 1:03 am
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Re: George Floyd
Originally Posted by paulry
I agree that Ms Price's views are not widely representative of those of Aboriginal Australian people, but that doesn't mean what she said is untrue or wrong. Anyone cross referencing what she said with the facts, would be hard pushed to find falsehoods. What made you think it is about Ms Price herself?
ps I meant the story I posted was about Ms Price herself, I thought I should mention that as people may have expected it to be Ms Price talking about Mr Floyd's death.
Jun 5th 2020, 1:05 am
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Re: George Floyd
Arrest death video by the NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100...ath-video.html
The prolonged use of knee on neck is certainly hideous and stomach turning.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100...ath-video.html
The prolonged use of knee on neck is certainly hideous and stomach turning.
Jun 5th 2020, 2:52 am
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Re: George Floyd
Well, the police finally did something about looting.
Vallejo police kill unarmed 22-year-old, who was on his knees with his hands up
Vallejo police kill unarmed 22-year-old, who was on his knees with his hands up
Police in northern California fatally shot an unarmed 22-year-old who was on his knees with his hands up outside a Walgreens store while responding to a call of alleged looting, officials said.
