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Old Nov 19th 2018, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
I see Steve Bannon recently did an Oxford Union address.

Watching it, it strikes me how genuine and coherent his message is and how what he says makes so much sense. He speaks a lot about Europe, Trump and Brexit - and of course they are all interconnected: Waning corporate globalism and resurgent populist nationalism. Goliath meets David. For a change we have leaders who are actually on our side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AtOw-xyMo8

...And the usual unruly children outside:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weu1VG2QX7A
This sounds like a paid promotion . Jesus, you are a sickeningly vile bootlicker.
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Old Nov 19th 2018, 6:08 pm
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I don't know under what guise Steve Bannon could be considered one of "our leaders".
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I don't know under what guise Steve Bannon could be considered one of "our leaders".
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Old Nov 19th 2018, 10:21 pm
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2016 too.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing View Post
This sounds like a paid promotion . Jesus, you are a sickeningly vile bootlicker.
And God bless you too.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 4:48 am
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https://www.politico.eu/article/ange...uropes-future/

Basically it is up to France and Germany as they pull the shots.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 5:11 am
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Merkel and Macron are desperate to weaken further their nation states and form a federal army so that they can suppress any other nations who may be thinking of bolting. A dangerous dangerous pair.

And then we have this power hungry lunatic:

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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
Merkel and Macron are desperate to weaken further their nation states and form a federal army so that they can suppress any other nations who may be thinking of bolting. A dangerous dangerous pair.

And then we have this power hungry lunatic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-3DsJ4jyP8
Your anti-European prejudice are vile. Have fun watching from the sidelines how we determine our future without Anglo-Saxon influence.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 6:23 am
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I think that's troll bait. I don't think even paulry is that gullible. But then, I've been wrong before.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 7:20 am
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I think that's troll bait. I don't think even paulry is that gullible. But then, I've been wrong before.
I did tackle him a week or two back on the matter of trolling and he swore blind he doesn't, so I guess we have to take everything he posts at face value as his true beliefs unless it's very clearly marked otherwise.

I'm wondering why, if this loose co-operation / trading bloc is such a good idea, it couldn't be set up amongst a load of countries which aren't members of the EU? Apparently there are a whole slew of those in Europe and the vast majority of the world is further beyond still. The UK could set something up with them and dispense with any of the inconvenient bits, like having a mechanism for ensuring the rules are abided by. Then they could all sign up to any agreements they wanted without fear of actually having to stick to them. I can think of quite a number of countries which would probably be up for that.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by Assanah View Post
Your anti-European prejudice are vile. Have fun watching from the sidelines how we determine our future without Anglo-Saxon influence.
How so? Are you blind to what is going on? It's very clear that increasing numbers of member states are calling for less federalism. So what is the EU's response? It's "Let's create a federal army". As for that lunatic Verhofstadt: He admits that the nation states don't want to hand new sovereign powers over to the EU so what is his solution? "A new transfer of powers over to the EU". He said it in the video, go watch and listen.

Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
I think that's troll bait. I don't think even paulry is that gullible. But then, I've been wrong before.
You just don't want to watch or hear the truth. Calling it troll bait is a feeble attempt to deny yourself the truth.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 10:26 am
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Paulry why exactly are you on this ex-pat site ? Do you work for some more 'interested ' power. One that would dearly love the EU to break apart.? One that has already done its damndest to make sure it does? Like ummm The USA. for instance. From everything you spout it would seem far better for the UK to just relinquish itself to the control of the US. To become its little spy and satellite in Europe. Do as its told or else the USA will simple remove its war heads from the nuclear weapons the UK are 'allowed' to own etc.

This is a far better future in your opinion than a co-operative one with its nearest neighbours. Ones who might actually give a damn if the UK gets attacked. You are indeed a troll.. not very bright... but a troll never the less. .
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 11:29 am
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Paulry why exactly are you on this ex-pat site ? Do you work for some more 'interested ' power. One that would dearly love the EU to break apart.? One that has already done its damndest to make sure it does? Like ummm The USA. for instance. From everything you spout it would seem far better for the UK to just relinquish itself to the control of the US. To become its little spy and satellite in Europe. Do as its told or else the USA will simple remove its war heads from the nuclear weapons the UK are 'allowed' to own etc.

This is a far better future in your opinion than a co-operative one with its nearest neighbours. Ones who might actually give a damn if the UK gets attacked. You are indeed a troll.. not very bright... but a troll never the less. .
I'm a British expat just like most of the others on this site. Where have I ever said the UK should relinquish control to anyone? I've consistently said Britain needs full independence, accountable to no-one but it's voters. Do you have a problem with that?

I'm intrigued about your comments about the US, it doesn't sound like you like it very much. Why is that exactly? The US and the UK have a long history of coming to each others assistance in times of need. They might not be nearest neighbours but the two countries are amongst each others nearest friends, and I have no doubt that they shall remain so. And we don't have to be in political union with or governed by the US or pay vast sums of money in order to remain so.

Other than that, sure, you can call me names, personally attack and insult me, but it says more about you than it does me.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 11:41 am
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Where have I ever said the UK should relinquish control to anyone? I've consistently said Britain needs full independence, accountable to no-one but it's voters. Do you have a problem with that?
Leave NATO ? Rip up every other international treaty, is that what you mean by full independence ? I think most people would have a problem with that.
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Old Nov 20th 2018, 11:48 am
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Leave NATO ? Rip up every other international treaty, is that what you mean by full independence ? I think most people would have a problem with that.
No, by full independence I mean all sovereign decisions are made and will continue to be made in the UK. No other entity can pass laws that the UK will automatically be subject to. The rest you know, such as control of who enters and leaves the country, and so on.
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