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Old Dec 24th 2020, 8:09 pm
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I'd not be surprised if grocery stores are profiting off the "donation" bags they try to get people to buy this year to donate to the local food banks, as Vancouver Food Bank shows, the contents of these bags are often not worth the price grocery stores are charging. The store claims it was a mistake and the store happens to be in the wealthiest area of BC too.

Example of a $20 bag that was donated by a store:

two Kraft Dinners, a chai tea, linguini, and a small bag of cauliflower crisps.

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Old Dec 24th 2020, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
I'd not be surprised if grocery stores are profiting off the "donation" bags they try to get people to buy this year to donate to the local food banks, as Vancouver Food Bank shows, the contents of these bags are often not worth the price grocery stores are charging. The store claims it was a mistake and the store happens to be in the wealthiest area of BC too.

Example of a $20 bag that was donated by a store:

two Kraft Dinners, a chai tea, linguini, and a small bag of cauliflower crisps.
"We overstocked on these items and nobody else wants them. "
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
"We overstocked on these items and nobody else wants them. "
Yep. I don't believe for a minute it was accident like the store claims. They are just doing CYA because they got caught.

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There is absolutley nothing new in this, same comment about beggars better off taking them to get a decent meal.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
I'd not be surprised if grocery stores are profiting off the "donation" bags they try to get people to buy this year to donate to the local food banks, as Vancouver Food Bank shows, the contents of these bags are often not worth the price grocery stores are charging. The store claims it was a mistake and the store happens to be in the wealthiest area of BC too.

Example of a $20 bag that was donated by a store:

two Kraft Dinners, a chai tea, linguini, and a small bag of cauliflower crisps.
So poor from the store to offload shit they don't want or can't sell, but equally shit from food banks to turn anything away.
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If anyone was curious this is a real world example from a food bank in Canada, 2 adults and what they consider 1 weeks food.

1 frozen lasagna

2 cans tuna

2 boxes wheat thins

12 eggs

2 yogurts (500ml size container)

2 bags of pasta (500g each bag)

2 cans of pasta sauce

3 carrots

6 apples

2 onions

2 packages gum



Edited to add 1 of 2 adults is diabetic.

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
If anyone was curious this is a real world example from a food bank in Canada, 2 adults and what they consider 1 weeks food.

1 frozen lasagna

2 cans tuna

2 boxes wheat thins

12 eggs

2 yogurts (500ml size container)

2 bags of pasta (500g each bag)

2 cans of pasta sauce

3 carrots

6 apples

2 onions

2 packages gum



Edited to add 1 of 2 adults is diabetic.
This diet needs to be subsidized by 1 kilo green lentils, 2 kilo bag of rice and a large bag of potatoes. All less expensive per gram than the lasagna probably. Not that I disagree with the lasagna for a special meal for poverty rations. What a pity the wealthier neighborhoods can't pitch in more generously. I'm surprised by that, I found Vancouver people generous and unselfish toward poor people when I lived there.
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Old Mar 3rd 2021, 5:26 pm
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This diet needs to be subsidized by 1 kilo green lentils, 2 kilo bag of rice and a large bag of potatoes. All less expensive per gram than the lasagna probably. Not that I disagree with the lasagna for a special meal for poverty rations. What a pity the wealthier neighborhoods can't pitch in more generously. I'm surprised by that, I found Vancouver people generous and unselfish toward poor people when I lived there.
If I had to guess the lasagna was probably overstock donated by a grocery store.

The original design of food banks and most haven't moved beyond that was to be a place where people can supplement their food needs but not rely on them for it, but these days a good % of food bank user rely entirely on the food bank as they simply cannot afford to buy groceries if they want housing, its become so bad in Canada the last decade especially, housing has increased hundreds of %, incomes barely moved, and housing supplement for social assistance and disability hasn't moved in 12+ years still stuck at $375 per month for a single and $570 per month for a couple.

You pretty much will find 0 city's or towns in BC where you can rent something for the amount provided, so then people end up using all of their monthly assistance and disability just for rent leaving nothing for food.

Canada has no food stamp program like the US does so there are less resources for people here to obtain food, in the US you would have food stamps + food banks to obtain food from which allows people some funds to supplement what they receive at the food bank.



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Old Mar 12th 2021, 12:08 am
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Not as good this week.

Real world food bank example, Canada, 2 adults, 0 kids.

1 frozen lasagna
a huge tray (buffet style tray) frozen vegetables with a small filet of salmon
1 container of chocolate hazelnut spread
1 container of peanut butter
2 cans of soup
1 can of shredded chicken meat
13 oranges
4 onions


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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
Not as good this week.

Real world food bank example, Canada, 2 adults, 0 kids.

1 frozen lasagna
a huge tray (buffet style tray) frozen vegetables with a small filet of salmon
1 container of chocolate hazelnut spread
1 container of peanut butter
2 cans of soup
1 can of shredded chicken meat
13 oranges
4 onions

Seems a bit, well, random.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
Seems a bit, well, random.
It tends to be, all depends on what donations they get, and what foods they got a deal on, its never very consistent. It supposed to last 1 week, but I don't think they ever truly provide a weeks of food, I think they are struggling a bit with demand being placed on them, the last couple years has seen food bank use go up a fair bit.
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No lasagna this week.

2 cans of sardines
2 cans of tuna
2 bags of dry rotini noodles
2 cans of corn
2 cans of 6 bean medley
1 can of Coke Zero 310ml
10 200 ml pouches of soy milk (no idea what anyone does with soy milk)
1 whole chicken

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This should be better organized. Things have changed in Canada since I was there. There are so many foods that can deliver better nourishment for a lot less money.

Soy milk tastes wierd, and certainly not to everyone's liking.
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
No lasagna this week.

2 cans of sardines
2 cans of tuna
2 bags of dry rotini noodles
2 cans of corn
2 cans of 6 bean medley
1 can of Coke Zero 310ml
10 200 ml pouches of soy milk (no idea what anyone does with soy milk)
1 whole chicken

What has a zero calorie drink got to do with helping anyone who is hungry?
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What has a zero calorie drink got to do with helping anyone who is hungry?
You use the whole chicken and make a non alcoholic version of beer-can chicken.
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