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Old Jul 25th 2020, 3:17 am
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Did you look around the website?
Yes, and I cannot find it (it seems you also tried).



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Old Jul 25th 2020, 10:35 pm
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Thank goodness the police aren't being defunded. Look at all the great work they've done:

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Thank goodness the police aren't being defunded. Look at all the great work they've done:

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ce+resusitaion
All of the "great work" that the police have done is ......"unavailable"
I did however manage to work out what Old Paulry was trying to show us, even if BritishExpats system and Paulry's incompetence, were not playing along
Another own goal for Paulry... this is exactly the activities that the police shouldn't be doing, except in unavoidable circumstances, but are so often called upon to do. This is exactly why the defunding movement was created, to get experts involved in their expert areas, and for the funding to follow those activities. Thanks Paulry for joining the Defund the Police bandwagon, by pointing out how they are being called upon to do all of these medical activities that they really shouldnt be called upon to do.

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Old Jul 25th 2020, 11:49 pm
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All of the "great work" that the police have done is ......"unavailable"
I did however manage to work out what Old Paulry was trying to show us, even if BritishExpats system and Paulry's incompetence, were not playing along
Another own goal for Paulry... this is exactly the activities that the police shouldn't be doing, except in unavoidable circumstances, but are so often called upon to do. This is exactly why the defunding movement was created, to get experts involved in their expert areas, and for the funding to follow those activities. Thanks Paulry for joining the Defund the Police bandwagon, by pointing out how they are being called upon to do all of these medical activities that they really shouldnt be called upon to do.
Rubbish. CPR and other emergency first aid is exactly the kind of thing that police are trained for and must be very capable of doing. Likewise mental health first aid, de-escalation skills, etc. You and BLM's nonsense about defunding the police is NOT what is needed - which in any case is just a red herring. They just need to be professionally trained and managed - and very many of them already are.
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Old Jul 26th 2020, 12:45 am
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All of the "great work" that the police have done is ......"unavailable"
I did however manage to work out what Old Paulry was trying to show us, even if BritishExpats system and Paulry's incompetence, were not playing along
Another own goal for Paulry... this is exactly the activities that the police shouldn't be doing, except in unavoidable circumstances, but are so often called upon to do. This is exactly why the defunding movement was created, to get experts involved in their expert areas, and for the funding to follow those activities. Thanks Paulry for joining the Defund the Police bandwagon, by pointing out how they are being called upon to do all of these medical activities that they really shouldnt be called upon to do.
Well, surely you saw the Crosscut poll of Washington State voters where 72% said the police were doing a "good" or "excellent" job, only 17% supported Defund the Police goals of massive budget cuts to the police, only 26% wanted to dismantle the police and start with "something new" and only 33% thought race affected how the police in their neighbourhoods did their jobs.

Now, that was Washington State. What do you think the figures for states like Oklahoma, Florida, Arizona, Ohio would be?

If it isn't coming close to flying in Seattle, it has no chance anywhere else.

Defund the Police's goal isn't to broaden employment possibilities with the police.
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The police are currently doing a great job here

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...only 33% thought race affected how the police in their neighbourhoods did their jobs.
One in three people believed race affects how the police do their jobs.

You say "only" as if it is something to be proud of.
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Old Jul 26th 2020, 1:34 am
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One in three people believed race affects how the police do their jobs.

You say "only" as if it is something to be proud of.
The key takeaway - to use the words of the pollster, hardly a right-wing outfit - was that people do not believe what they are seeing on the nightly news is being reflected in their local neighbourhoods, in Seattle and Washington State. And, yes - "only one in three" is a lot less than what you would have expected considering the news coverage, which is why that is also noteworthy. Washington State would also probably be on the high end of that nationally.

People feel there is a problem, but they do not feel the police need a total reconstruction and they certainly do not want their funding gutted.




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If it isn't coming close to flying in Seattle, it has no chance anywhere else.
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7 of 9 City council members have committed to a 50% cut in police funding for next year. 6 are needed to stop a mayoral veto. I doubt it will stay like this as actual budget decisions are made. The figure will be below 50% But it is happening in Seattle.
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Old Jul 26th 2020, 1:48 am
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Yes, and I cannot find it (it seems you also tried).
Because maybe it's not there?
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Why are some people on this thread apparently against diverting funding to prevent the problems that produce the fallout that the police currently end up having to deal with? That doesn't seem very pro-police to me. Do these posters not actually want to see a reduction in crime?

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Why are some people on this thread apparently against diverting funding to prevent the problems that produce the fallout that the police currently end up having to deal with? That doesn't seem very pro-police to me. Do these posters not actually want to see a reduction in crime?
They don't live here. They have no idea what's going on. They believe the carnage that Trump is selling instead of the truth that violent crimes have fallen drastically nationwide and have been declining for decades.

Somebody else can go over the slashing of mental health and social services and the over funding and militarization of the police. I'm not going to waste any more of breath on the bleeding obvious.
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They don't live here. They have no idea what's going on. They believe the carnage that Trump is selling instead of the truth that violent crimes have fallen drastically nationwide and have been declining for decades.

Somebody else can go over the slashing of mental health and social services and the over funding and militarization of the police. I'm not going to waste any more of breath on the bleeding obvious.
The purveyors of fear and conflict never want peace. If we have peace, we will no longer be manipulable and vulnerable to fear.

"The more you can increase fear of drugs, crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people." - Noam Chomsky, fascist marxist libtard snowflake, and an American scholar.
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The purveyors of fear and conflict never want peace. If we have peace, we will no longer be manipulable and vulnerable to fear.

"The more you can increase fear of drugs, crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people." - Noam Chomsky
Whatever happened to that caravan?
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They don't live here. They have no idea what's going on. They believe the carnage that Trump is selling instead of the truth that violent crimes have fallen drastically nationwide and have been declining for decades.

Somebody else can go over the slashing of mental health and social services and the over funding and militarization of the police. I'm not going to waste any more of breath on the bleeding obvious.
The same people who are all for the police dealing with mental health issues in the community, are the same people promoting the nuclear family, are the same people who want, for us all to be the same, for standardization, no nails sticking up, the same people who are for institutionalization of those that are not the same, the same people who want those who are different to be hidden away.
I recently watched the documentary on the
school. I was struck, how this could happen largely because of social pressure for people to be and act according to standardized ways, and for those that dont to be hidden away, and because of pressure to trust and follow those in authority There was no calls from these people for the nuclear family to stay strong. It is well worth watching for those unfamiliar with the horrors of institutionalization of children with disabilities.(Uncovered by Geraldo Rivera, to give him some credit)
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