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Old Jun 9th 2020, 1:35 am
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One has to remember that some communities dont call the police, for good reason, as if they report a crime, they fear there is a chance that they will end up shot or arrested. They dont have police now.

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"Defund the Police" is a stupid way to describe what reasonable people think should be prioritized. No sane person would suggest scrapping them - except of course radical stupid lefties - and the rightwingers pretending to be radical lefties - trying to muddy the waters
FYI the Annual budget for NYC police is $6 billion.....BILLION

I would like to see the police end the practice of buying defence surplus - caused by the military buying more than they need of the more modern stuff.

At least with the UK Armed Response Teams, they still can be recognised as Police. I've seen picture of one particular US police officer in uniform - with a tattoo of the Waffen SS on his upper arm. Thereby hangs the problem

Some of the "military" units posted to DC showed nothing to suggest they were anything other than a few "militia" twats donning camo. No labels on their uniforms at all. - and some look like they couldn't run 100 yds without pausing for breath. Turns out they were response teams from the Bureau of Prisons.....FFS
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Here's an example of how it works in one city, and what the effect was on crime.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/police...loyd-1.5601990
In Camden, NJ, "Murders are down by two-thirds since the year before the police reform, and overall violent crime is down by nearly half."
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Here's an example of how it works in one city, and what the effect was on crime.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/police...loyd-1.5601990
In Camden, NJ, "Murders are down by two-thirds since the year before the police reform, and overall violent crime is down by nearly half."
I saw that yesterday. It is a good article but misses a lot out and doesn't answer all questions but kudos to them. It will take a lot of education for all if all of these proposed plans go forward and lots of other laws will need to be modified.
Domestic argument with no violence don't call the police. Somebody vandalized my car don't call the police. Neighbours having a noisy party don't call the police. I know a guy who is not legally in the country and is working at my place of business then don't call the police, This guy is acting strange he has been sat down with a cup of tea for the last 6 hours and every half hour he gets up and howls like a wolf and sits back down don't call the police etc etc etc.

I guess in most areas calls for the police go via 911 or 999 and non emergency are other numbers. I have no idea how many places you can make a call and actually speak to a police officer in person. Any search of the internet for top 10 911 calls for a specific area yields results that will make you shake your heads.
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Old Jun 9th 2020, 4:49 pm
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Just the latest in a long line of examples to illustrate my earlier post and why many people do not call the police.
"Black store owner reports robbery, gets punched by officer"
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...uWXlCda1wMbsj4
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
Just the latest in a long line of examples to illustrate my earlier post and why many people do not call the police.
"Black store owner reports robbery, gets punched by officer"
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...uWXlCda1wMbsj4
I read your link. I could highlight a few things but doing so would only inflame the situation. You have an opinion, I have an opinion and so will others.
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Defunding the police is pure lunacy and it says a lot about those who are in favour of it. It begs the question of what they really think will replace them. Enter general lawlessness, gangsters, protection rackets, vigilantes, and marxist armed citizen patrols. Craziness on steroids
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It's almost as if Paulry thinks Castle Rock vs Gonzalez found that the police have a duty of care to protect people.
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Defunding the police is pure lunacy and it says a lot about those who are in favour of it. It begs the question of what they really think will replace them. Enter general lawlessness, gangsters, protection rackets, vigilantes, and marxist armed citizen patrols. Craziness on steroids
Have you actually been following the discussion?
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I think we can all agree that the state of society in most countries is not perfect but as this is a thread about defunding the police and using some of that money to support other services here is an example from Canada. Bear in mind these are statements made by a police chief and other information is missing to put these statements into full context.

Cocaine, Heroin, Crack, Meth, LSD, PCP, and a raft of similar type drugs are illegal in most countries.

Here is one of his statements: "We are responding to … year-to-date, 370 overdose calls, more than two a day," If it is an overdose then why are police responding surely an ambulance or paramedic is better equipped to deal with this.

we are responding to 19 domestic conflict calls per service per day. Shouldn't a marriage counsellor or similar be better to attend rather than the police?
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Defunding the police is pure lunacy and it says a lot about those who are in favour of it. It begs the question of what they really think will replace them. Enter general lawlessness, gangsters, protection rackets, vigilantes, and marxist armed citizen patrols. Craziness on steroids
You've not only not read up on what people mean by defunding the police, but you also haven't read the comments in this thread, and yet you still feel the need to make a statement about it.

This kind of statement is from someone who is a lot less intelligent than some here give them credit for. Someone who has weaker analytical skills and simply soak up whatever is fed to them from just one or two clearly biased sources. They ignore conflicting data from what they see from all sources against what they are already believe and arrive at the same conclusions and opinions they started with.
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You've not only not read up on what people mean by defunding the police, but you also haven't read the comments in this thread, and yet you still feel the need to make a statement about it.

This kind of statement is from someone who is a lot less intelligent than some here give them credit for. Someone who has weaker analytical skills and simply soak up whatever is fed to them from just one or two clearly biased sources. They ignore conflicting data from what they see from all sources against what they are already believe and arrive at the same conclusions and opinions they started with.

I was really hoping for the Marxist patrols though.
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Old Jun 10th 2020, 2:36 pm
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I think we can all agree that the state of society in most countries is not perfect but as this is a thread about defunding the police and using some of that money to support other services here is an example from Canada. Bear in mind these are statements made by a police chief and other information is missing to put these statements into full context.

Cocaine, Heroin, Crack, Meth, LSD, PCP, and a raft of similar type drugs are illegal in most countries.

Here is one of his statements: "We are responding to … year-to-date, 370 overdose calls, more than two a day," If it is an overdose then why are police responding surely an ambulance or paramedic is better equipped to deal with this.

we are responding to 19 domestic conflict calls per service per day. Shouldn't a marriage counsellor or similar be better to attend rather than the police?
Since any police officer would know the police accompany crisis workers to domestic calls to ensure their safety, I'd like to know which police chief made that patently ridiculous statement. Likewise he'd know why the police respond to 911 calls for overdoses; same reason the fire department is dispatched at the same time - they might get there first and be able to save someone's life. So which police chief was it?
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Well of course you should know who it was as it is yours Regina Police Chief Evan Bray

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...iefs-1.5603964
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Well of course you should know who it was as it is yours Regina Police Chief Evan Bray
Bullshit. I watched him give that press conference (and saw it several times again on the news) and at no time did he say: Shouldn't a marriage counsellor or similar be better to attend rather than the police? He's been chief for a few years here and the RPS is partnered with several community organisations that go on calls with them.
The nonsense about 'surely an ambulance or paramedic is better equipped to deal with this' is all yours too. Leave the trolling to our resident trolls; you just aren't any good at it.
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