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Old Apr 1st 2020, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Possibly, but I think it also plays to many peoples fears and causes them harm. Just like the whole Brexit issue one can see that some people's primary emotional response is fear and the never-ending stream of media hyperbole is damaging for that type of person.
I think Trumpy's change of message on this is evidence enough of how serious it should be taken. He's gone from playing games with it to the far more serious messages coming now. That should be enough for the fanboys of that clown (which I think many Brexiteers can be lumped in with) to calm down a bit and stop moaning that it's too serious and too restrictive out there at the moment.

A bit of fear is helping keep lots of people at home. A heavy handed approach is fine, we'll pay for it in the short and medium term but if it stops many people from dying and causing a different kind of chaos where services fall down because of people being dead or sick then we might be able to get through it in a relatively faster period of time.
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 9:52 am
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We've started limiting news reading and whatnot. Whilst I think it's important to stay up to date, I don't need it 24/7.
That being said, I appreciate the severity of the reporting and I'd rather we hit this nail with a sledgehammer than a flump.
I agree. Fortunately I have music I enjoy listening to, and some books I’m reading. In terms of TV/radio news, the one I’m dropping completely is the 24-hr BBC TV news channel, Freeview 107. It’s poorly programmed, uncritical, sensationalized crap. Doesn’t achieve anything. Radio 4 is pretty good, I think. I listen from 06:30 to 08:00-ish. They give the essential updates, they have good interviews, including holding government’s feet to the fire, but they also have uplifting interesting stories - for instance, this morning, they had a good piece about David Hockney and the landscape paintings he’s doing at his home in France. (The paintings are gorgeous - see the article on BBC online today.) There’s loads of other really good, informative current affairs content on Radio Four that you wont get elsewhere. Couple of examples, Sunday (on Sunday morning) has news on pandemic response from the perspective of various religious faiths. Saturday morning, Farming Today, all sorts of food-supply stories from the point of view of the farmers and other producers. Not to mention all the other good Radio Four content.
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 10:03 am
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Does anyone here know anybody who is being unduly scared by the coverage?

More people are still taking it too lightly rather than being over frightened of it as far as I can see.
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 10:07 am
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An update to my post a few days ago, about growing healthy salad veggies on the windowsill!

Onions. I have onion sets to plant in my allotment, that is, baby onions about the size of a marble. I always buy more than I really need (they’re ridiculously cheap.) I’ve been planting some up in small pots, 4 or 5 onions to a pot. Within two weeks, I have six inch long onion tops to nip off and snack on. Presumably, will keep the scurvy a bay, if you can’t get salad greens from the shops.

Mustard greens. These are seeds you can get in the supermarket, garden centre, or online. Just spread them liberally on a thin layer of compost. The little trays I use are from supermarket ready meals. Within a week, you have sprouts to eat. They keep on coming, plant up a new tray every couple of weeks.

Potatoes. OK, not a salad, and not so quick, but potato makes a beautiful house plant. If you have a supermarket potato that’s sprouted, plant it in a plant pot with compost. Within a month, you’ll have a lovely, vigorous houseplant. Pot it on to a bigger pot. Within two months or so, you’ll have half a pound of new potatoes to cook up and eat!

Loads of other things you can grow on the windowsill, this is just what I have going just now ...
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
I guess the high HA1c, blood sugar etc ties in with those with diabetes having a tougher time.
Yes but if it proves to be correct then early testing is the key to lowering the mortality rate.

Because the current batch of trial drugs work best at the onset because they keep the oxygen flowing allowing your immune system build its response.

Governments need to throw cash and resources at testing.
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I got to where information overload was making me anxious and sick, so I put The Virus on the shelf for a while. I'm suffering more this year from allergies, or so I believe. At first I accounted the conjestion in my lungs and itching red eyes and sneezing to the heavy smog we had a few days ago. Now I realize all the trees are in flower and that for the last 5 years spring and early summer have made these symptoms worse. I'm familiar with the symptoms of allergies, my brother and my grandmother suffered very much with them. Thanks to the BE's writing about your symptoms of allergies and 'hay fever'. Saved me topping up my nervous worrying.

We are having a lot of sunny weather, really helps.

I decided to paint again. I completely loose myself for hours in the landscapes. The big bonus to lockdown is that it is quiet outside -- which is helpful for complete concentration.
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Tried to listen to Radio 4 and Radio 2 since I've been back - basically they seem to be "Radio-Corona" and there is a never-ending of fear-generating broadcasting.
Just be glad that the Syrian conflict is on hold, Venezuela is rich and peaceful, there are no more immigrants coming from Turkey, Boko Haram has halted operations and there are no problems in Arica at all......

Well, I presume that's the case, because they've all disappeared from the headlines........

Good job we're kept informed and not just fed the news that sells, eh?
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 10:16 am
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Does anyone here know anybody who is being unduly scared by the coverage?

More people are still taking it too lightly rather than being over frightened of it as far as I can see.
I agree. I’m not sure that “scared” is a realistic concept here. But, another way of looking at it, it’s possible to get profoundly depressed by the relentless coverage - and this is what put me off in relation to BBC 24 hr TV news (Freeview 107.) I don’t get that feeling from Radio 4 news, though. That’s generally good, essential info (some of their interviews are unhelpfully confrontational, but that’s always been a weakness with Radio 4 news.)
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by tumbleweedly View Post
I got to where information overload was making me anxious and sick, so I put The Virus on the shelf for a while. I'm suffering more this year from allergies, or so I believe. At first I accounted the conjestion in my lungs and itching red eyes and sneezing to the heavy smog we had a few days ago. Now I realize all the trees are in flower and that for the last 5 years spring and early summer have made these symptoms worse. I'm familiar with the symptoms of allergies, my brother and my grandmother suffered very much with them. Thanks to the BE's writing about your symptoms of allergies and 'hay fever'. Saved me topping up my nervous worrying.

We are having a lot of sunny weather, really helps.

I decided to paint again. I completely loose myself for hours in the landscapes. The big bonus to lockdown is that it is quiet outside -- which is helpful for complete concentration.
Good to hear from you again, tumbleweedly. Definitely agree the sunny weather helps! Even though it’s been quite cold here in Norfolk. I’m seeing more butterflies each day, when I’m out for my walk
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
So - made it home to the beautiful south.

Plane was about 20% full, passengers were 10-15% wearing masks.

Zero testing at LHR - mooched all the way through, easiest arrival ever. The Virgin message before landing was to self isolate IF you had symptoms, otherwise no other info.

Train route to the south coast is normally coach connection to Woking - but that wasn’t running, so it was coach to Guildford - I was the only passenger on the coach, only passenger waiting at the train station. Uber was working from my station to home.

thanks for the shopping info, going to head out tomorrow morning.
This is shocking!

You should have been tested, registered, escorted home and have guards outside your door to prevent you contacting the public.
That's what should happen to you generally........ but now that you've returned from a virus area, even more so!!

Seriously, keep yourself indoors and safe..... as well as being stateside, you've just been through major airports and stuck in a confined space with others for hours.
Think of all the hours you can spend with your Teach Yourself Economics book!

Keep Safe
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This is shocking!

You should have been tested, registered, escorted home and have guards outside your door to prevent you contacting the public.
That's what should happen to you generally........ but now that you've returned from a virus area, even more so!!

Seriously, keep yourself indoors and safe..... as well as being stateside, you've just been through major airports and stuck in a confined space with others for hours.
Think of all the hours you can spend with your Teach Yourself Economics book!

Keep Safe
Bean counting.....?
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This is shocking!

You should have been tested, registered, escorted home and have guards outside your door to prevent you contacting the public.
That's what should happen to you generally........ but now that you've returned from a virus area, even more so!!

Seriously, keep yourself indoors and safe..... as well as being stateside, you've just been through major airports and stuck in a confined space with others for hours.
Think of all the hours you can spend with your Teach Yourself Economics book!

Keep Safe
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
Does anyone here know anybody who is being unduly scared by the coverage?

More people are still taking it too lightly rather than being over frightened of it as far as I can see.
Well, who do you believe? "Experts" have been sufficiently relegated as political apparatchiks, "facts" aren't facts, the media are liars, and certain well known (non-"expert") politicians have claimed it as a hoax.

And some still want to believe it's all a conspiracy of distant autocrats.

It seems to me that it's just one consequence of the "alternate" reality that's become so popular in the past few years.
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Old Apr 1st 2020, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
On amazon just now - https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Pleated-...90&s=hi&sr=1-5 in stock, arrives april 21. I didn't order any as I don't think I need them.
Article on the usefulness of a mask during the current outbreak: https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

In short it's best to leave them to hospital workers and those caring for sick people at home.
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Article on the usefulness of a mask during the current outbreak: https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

In short it's best to leave them to hospital workers and those caring for sick people at home.
Don't...... people will complain you're ignoring the well-known "germs in the air" danger or the virus being carried miles on the wind, etc., etc.
Meanwhile, they'll touch their faces 10 times more because their glasses steam up in a mask, or it just gets uncomfortable..... or.....
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