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CORONAVIRUS PART II

Old Oct 12th 2021, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
I hope so, but I was one of the first people to be dealt with at that centre, and I keep hearing the vax makes you magnetic and all the buildings were metal, so I was hoping I would be able to get out, and not to be stuck to a wall there.

Could be handy if working as a mechanic or something. No more dropped tools.
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Old Oct 12th 2021, 4:00 pm
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Encouraging views of the pandemic in India and Germany by a Indo/German writer.

Has India’s COVID-19 Epidemic Ended? (foreignpolicy.com)
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Old Oct 12th 2021, 8:03 pm
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I hope so, but I was one of the first people to be dealt with at that centre, and I keep hearing the vax makes you magnetic and all the buildings were metal, so I was hoping I would be able to get out, and not to be stuck to a wall there.
Pfizer again, and I've had the usual reaction.. Nothing
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Old Oct 13th 2021, 5:15 am
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Anti vaxxers being mocked in Halloween displays:

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaxxer...kery-displays/
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Old Oct 13th 2021, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
Pfizer again, and I've had the usual reaction.. Nothing
That’s good.
My first two Pfizer; little or no reaction.
My third Pfizer; somewhat under the weather, cold-like reaction, for two days. But no big deal.
(in the US, this was.)
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Old Oct 13th 2021, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by robin1234 View Post
That’s good.
My first two Pfizer; little or no reaction.
My third Pfizer; somewhat under the weather, cold-like reaction, for two days. But no big deal.
(in the US, this was.)
I had a third Pfizer jab two days ago with no reaction other than a soreness at the injection spot for about 24 hours.
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Old Oct 14th 2021, 7:59 am
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US FDA doesn't seem convinced Moderna vaccine needs a booster based on current data.
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Old Oct 14th 2021, 2:02 pm
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Well that's good to know. From your link:
Scientists at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said on Tuesday that Moderna Inc. had not met all of the agency’s criteria to support use of booster doses of its COVID-19 vaccine, possibly because the efficacy of the shot’s first two doses has remained strong.
FDA staff said in documents that data for Moderna’s vaccine showed that a booster does increase protective antibodies, but the difference in antibody levels before and after the shot was not wide enough, particularly in those whose levels had remained high.



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Old Oct 16th 2021, 8:45 pm
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Does anyone have a reasonable 'state of affairs' regarding US / UK travel? Specifically, UK to US, by non-US citizens (or non-US residents - basically, tourist travel)?

I found this fairly recent article -
https://www.cntraveller.com/article/...vel-to-the-usa . It suggests travel to US from UK by non-US citizens will be allowed in 'Early November' - exact date not yet specified. It also says that vaccination will be required, and the status of AZ vaccine is not confirmed.
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That article accurate covers the state of affairs, afaik. WH announced this so probably accurate, but no fixed date yet.

Stance on AZ is not confirmed, but everything I've read suggests that it will be, including Dr. Fauci. It hasn't yet been approved for use here, but I think because of side effects testing, no doubts about efficacy against Covid.
Looks like Nov 8 is a firm date:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/1...avelers-516082
Still no confirmation on exactly what qualifies as 'fully vaccinated', in regards to Astra Zeneca and mixed-dose folks.
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Old Oct 16th 2021, 10:07 pm
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Looks like Nov 8 is a firm date:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/1...avelers-516082
Still no confirmation on exactly what qualifies as 'fully vaccinated', in regards to Astra Zeneca and mixed-dose folks.
This NY Times article addresses what constitutes vaccinated:

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention considers people fully inoculated two weeks after receiving the second dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, or two weeks after receiving the single dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

Those who have received vaccines listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization, such as the AstraZeneca vaccine, would also be considered fully vaccinated, according to the C.D.C."

Also some text on those with mixed vaccines.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/u...travel-us.html
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Old Oct 16th 2021, 10:10 pm
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This is the info from the CDC website. Hidden at the bottom in the annex section.

interpretation of vaccine records: CDC has not recommended the use of heterologous (i.e., mix-and-match) primary series. However, the use of such strategies (including mixing of mRNA, adenoviral, and mRNA plus adenoviral products) is increasingly common in many countries outside of the United States.

Therefore, for the purposes of interpretation of vaccination records, individuals can be considered fully vaccinated ≥2 weeks after receipt of the last dose if they have received any single dose of an FDA approved/authorized or WHO EUL approved single-dose series (i.e., Janssen), or any combination of two doses of an FDA approved/authorized or WHO emergency use listed COVID-19 two-dose series.

The recommended interval between the first and second doses of FDA-approved/authorized and WHO-EUL listed vaccines varies by vaccine type. However, for purposes of interpretation of vaccine records, the second dose in a two dose heterologous series must have been received no earlier than 17 days (21 days with a 4 day grace period) after the first dose.
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Old Oct 19th 2021, 3:14 pm
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A pretty encouraging picture of how things are going in Spain now:-

https://english.elpais.com/society/2...y-is-near.html

We had our flu jabs this afternoon and the nurse confirmed that my husband, being over 70, will be able to have the Covid booster jab once six months has elapsed since his second dose (another month to go) but as things stand I won't be eligible for one as I'm under 70.

Much good the UK's so called "world beating" vaccine rollout seems to have done them, looking at the situation over there.
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A pretty encouraging picture of how things are going in Spain now:-

https://english.elpais.com/society/2...y-is-near.html

We had our flu jabs this afternoon and the nurse confirmed that my husband, being over 70, will be able to have the Covid booster jab once six months has elapsed since his second dose (another month to go) but as things stand I won't be eligible for one as I'm under 70.

Much good the UK's so called "world beating" vaccine rollout seems to have done them, looking at the situation over there.

Vaccination rates in the UK are pretty good overall. My sister and BIL had their flu and covid boosters a few weeks ago. Vaccination rates aren't really the problem, imo, it's more the total mismanagement of the covid fallout, the brexit fallout, and the clear results of chronic NHS underfunding that now means that even regular services and screenings are delayed by months, sometimes fatally in the case of cancer screenings for example. I suspect this is politics though, and belongs in the other thread.
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Vaccination rates in the UK are pretty good overall. My sister and BIL had their flu and covid boosters a few weeks ago. Vaccination rates aren't really the problem, imo, it's more the total mismanagement of the covid fallout, the brexit fallout, and the clear results of chronic NHS underfunding that now means that even regular services and screenings are delayed by months, sometimes fatally in the case of cancer screenings for example. I suspect this is politics though, and belongs in the other thread.
Flu jabs always start later in Spain - winter arrives later here! It always used to be November but has been brought forward a few weeks since the start of the pandemic.

The UK has today reported the highest daily death figures since March - 223, and the number of people hospitalised is also increasing steadily, which will not help at all to improve the delays being experienced by people needing care for other conditions. Only a low percentage of school pupils 12 and over have been vaccinated, and apparently Covid is ripping through schools with now over 200k children off school with confirmed Covid, with their education therefore continuing to be impacted. By contrast, over 80% of children aged 12-18 were vaccinated in Spain before the new school year began in September.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hs-since-march
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Old Oct 19th 2021, 5:57 pm
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Flu jabs always start later in Spain - winter arrives later here! It always used to be November but has been brought forward a few weeks since the start of the pandemic.

The UK has today reported the highest daily death figures since March - 223, and the number of people hospitalised is also increasing steadily, which will not help at all to improve the delays being experienced by people needing care for other conditions. Only a low percentage of school pupils 12 and over have been vaccinated, and apparently Covid is ripping through schools with now over 200k children off school with confirmed Covid, with their education therefore continuing to be impacted. By contrast, over 80% of children aged 12-18 were vaccinated in Spain before the new school year began in September.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hs-since-march

Yes, they totally fell down on getting the school kids vaccinated.
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