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Old Mar 31st 2020, 7:24 pm
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So - made it home to the beautiful south.

Plane was about 20% full, passengers were 10-15% wearing masks.

Zero testing at LHR - mooched all the way through, easiest arrival ever. The Virgin message before landing was to self isolate IF you had symptoms, otherwise no other info.

Train route to the south coast is normally coach connection to Woking - but that wasn’t running, so it was coach to Guildford - I was the only passenger on the coach, only passenger waiting at the train station. Uber was working from my station to home.

thanks for the shopping info, going to head out tomorrow morning.
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So about 8 fl oz bleach per gallon of water, then, for spraying / wiping door handles, etc? and maybe 2 fl oz bleach per gallon of water for rinsing veg?

I'm taking advantage of 'staging' stuff to quite a large extent. canned goods, boxed items, etc can just sit there for 3-4 days before I touch them. I did get a bit concerned reading about frozen food ... the virus can live a while at frozen temperatures. I obviously don't like leaving anything frozen 'out' for any longer than necessary due to potential spoilage. I bought some big bags of frozen salmon, cod, and ... my best purchase so far ... 'tater tots' ... ! I haven't eaten them in decades, but when I saw them at the store the other day (in the rather sorry frozen veg section) I snapped them up, and oh boy, were they good!
i would not use a spray containing bleach, as it will take the colour out of anything it touches. I have a couple of covered containers containing the solution, with a J cloth in each, I change the solution every couple of days. The only time I spray is to clean the grout in the shower cubicle. I throughly wipe down packages/boxes containing frozen food, then leave it for a few mins to dry before putting it in the freezer.
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Oh boy - now is not the time to be proudly avoiding something that could be quite useful Get a 'burner' flip phone from Walmart or something ... just for the duration ...
The underlined part is relevant. I've never had the need for one. I have the landline at home and customer services when out. Nobody needs to contact me when I'm out. It's very nice.

There are so many negative comments on BE about phones in Canada that even if I was interested I'd be put off.



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Old Mar 31st 2020, 7:53 pm
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Steerpike...I have posted several times that I have been bleaching everything down for the last 3+ weeks. Nothing comes through my door before it is wiped down with a bleach/water solution. Then I put it in a spare room. I wear latex gloves while handling the goods, then the gloves are washed in the solution. I even soak veg/fruit in a mild bleach solution, rinsing well half a dozen times. I also use it to wipe door handles and surfaces. I would use the stronger solution recommended by your friend.

i believe it can harm your lungs, but you will not be breathing in neat bleach for a long period of time daily.
I have the same routine here kitchen gloves can be good because you can tolerate higher temps of water, my hands are pretty trashed at the moment and I can get a bathroom tap quicker than a new box of gloves from Amazon good time for the seals to go in the tap. I’d like to find a good hand repair cream.

Dont share bathroom towels separate toothbrushes keep your own toothpaste.

There is no thing as over clean....
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I have never been happier to have been told I have bronchitis
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I have never been happier to have been told I have bronchitis
Still...take care it can soon turn nasty,
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Still...take care it can soon turn nasty,
He's called me in a prescription for an antibiotic and (I think) a steroid. Also he said he thinks I have apparently developed a seasonal allergy, which I never had before but I do have some post nasal drip going on, so I'll take OTC meds for that too.
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The underlined part is relevant. I've never had the need for one. I have the landline at home and customer services when out. Nobody needs to contact me when I'm out. It's very nice.

There are so many negative comments on BE about phones in Canada that even if I was interested I'd be put off.
OK, your choice! Things like, calling / or being called - while waiting in a parking lot seem to be extremely good possibilities. If you were to get sick in the future, I foresee a system where you would drive to a place, and wait to be summoned. Coordinating activities while out foraging for food seem to be a possible use also.

More generally, and this is now getting past just 'cell phones' to 'smart phones' - I'm seeing a disappointing trend towards 'apps' being more supported that browser sites. a few examples (not related to C-19, just giving examples) - my bank lets me make a deposit using my smartphone but not on my laptop / browser, and my bank also uses an 'app' to generate a security code, also not supported on my laptop / browser.
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Not quite sure what to believe...or if they are changing the goal posts as they go along. Now saying the virus can live in the air for hours...I read weeks ago that it drops to the ground fairly quickly. TBH I never walk behind anyone...not even several yards behind...I move sideways as far as possible. That the virus can live on hard surfaces such as glass and metal for several days...plastics longer up to 9 days. Several countries are now mandating that everyone wear masks outside their homes.
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i would not use a spray containing bleach, as it will take the colour out of anything it touches. I have a couple of covered containers containing the solution, with a J cloth in each, I change the solution every couple of days. The only time I spray is to clean the grout in the shower cubicle. I throughly wipe down packages/boxes containing frozen food, then leave it for a few mins to dry before putting it in the freezer.
I used it last night to spray my kitchen counter, which I assume is 'color safe'. I then sprayed it onto a paper towel (while holding over the sink) as a way to wet the towel without me having to be dipping my hands in the bleach. I then used it (the wet paper towel) to wipe my front door handle, which is brass, and the garage door opener button, which is plastic. So I'm not walking around 'spraying on things' as such. It just seems a convenient way to 'dispense' the solution. But I'm alone, remember, and only go out once every several days to forage, and I have zero concern about 'spreading' anything 'within' my household (no one to spread to).

I also managed to place an order for these on amazon ...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H7I49NC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H7I49NC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
. They would only sell me X-Large; all the other sizes were restricted to healthcare use. I guess no one wants x-large! My hands are SMALL but what the heck - I need something! My hands are cracking up.

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I use this hospital recipe for bleach solutions, I posted it before in the other thread a few times. Remember best to make up a new bleach solution each day, bleach once mixed with water loses its strength with time, so unless you have a test kit and can test the strength each day, easier to make up a new batch each morning. This is based on 5.25% strength.

Low level disinfection (approximately 100 ppm)

Preparing a 1: 500 Household Bleach Solution: • 1ml ( 1/4 teaspoons) household bleach to 500ml (2 cups) water • 20 ml (4 teaspoons) household bleach to 10 L (40 cups or approx. 2 gallons) Recommended Uses: • safe level for toys, dishes and utensils and food contact surfaces


Intermediate level disinfection (approximately 500 ppm)

Preparing a 1: 100 Household Bleach Solution: • 5 ml (1 teaspoons) household bleach + 500 ml (2 cups) water • 62 ml ( 1/4 cup ) household bleach + 6138 ml ( 24 3/4 cups) water Recommended Uses: • for use on non-critical medical or personal service instruments

Intermediate - High level disinfection (approximately 1000 ppm)

Preparing a 1: 50 Household Bleach Solution: • 20 ml ( 4 teaspoons) household bleach + 1000 ml (4 cups) water • 100ml ( 7 tablespoons) household bleach + 5000 ml ( 20 cups) water Recommended Uses: • for use in washrooms, change tables in childcare, during outbreaks of respiratory diseases or vomiting and diarrhea


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Not quite sure what to believe...or if they are changing the goal posts as they go along. Now saying the virus can live in the air for hours...I read weeks ago that it drops to the ground fairly quickly. TBH I never walk behind anyone...not even several yards behind...I move sideways as far as possible. That the virus can live on hard surfaces such as glass and metal for several days...plastics longer up to 9 days. Several countries are now mandating that everyone wear masks outside their homes.
I believe the distinction is, aerosolized vs droplets. I forget the correct term now. There are certain procedures that doc's perform on patients that can cause a super-fine mist to form from a patient, and it is that mist - likened to fog - that can stay active for a while. But the average person who coughs is putting out droplets that fall down quickly. Of course, who knows what the real deal is ...

On my walks, now, I don't see more than 5 or 6 people in an hour, and we all cross the street entirely when we see each other - and smile, wave, chat, etc!
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I used it last night to spray my kitchen counter, which I assume is 'color safe'. I then sprayed it onto a paper towel (while holding over the sink) as a way to wet the towel without me having to be dipping my hands in the bleach. I then used it (the wet paper towel) to wipe my front door handle, which is brass, and the garage door opener button, which is plastic. So I'm not walking around 'spraying on things' as such. It just seems a convenient way to 'dispense' the solution. But I'm alone, remember, and only go out once every several days to forage, and I have zero concern about 'spreading' anything 'within' my household (no one to spread to).
unless you think you are introducing the virus into your home ie on goods bought, or if someone lives with you and has been outdoors, I see no reason to disinfect everything daily. I wipe the door handles if we go out for a walk...same if hubby goes downstairs, through our garage and into the parking area to take the trash/recycling. When we come back from a walk, we wash our hands before taking our coats off. We take our shoes off outside, then put them inside the door on a small mat to keep them isolated.

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So - made it home to the beautiful south.

Plane was about 20% full, passengers were 10-15% wearing masks.

Zero testing at LHR - mooched all the way through, easiest arrival ever. The Virgin message before landing was to self isolate IF you had symptoms, otherwise no other info.

Train route to the south coast is normally coach connection to Woking - but that wasn’t running, so it was coach to Guildford - I was the only passenger on the coach, only passenger waiting at the train station. Uber was working from my station to home.

thanks for the shopping info, going to head out tomorrow morning.
Were there planes like this every day, or was this a 'once a week' type of thing? 20% full would (hopefully) suggest, once weekly?
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Not quite sure what to believe...or if they are changing the goal posts as they go along. Now saying the virus can live in the air for hours...I read weeks ago that it drops to the ground fairly quickly. TBH I never walk behind anyone...not even several yards behind...I move sideways as far as possible. That the virus can live on hard surfaces such as glass and metal for several days...plastics longer up to 9 days. Several countries are now mandating that everyone wear masks outside their homes.
It's still so new that nobody really knows for sure yet about most of its properties.

Also, we can't find masks for love nor money out here, so we've bought some bandanas so I can protect myself if the need arises and look gangsta af
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