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Old Mar 26th 2020, 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I wonder when/if we will be getting these in the US.

It would nice to know if I already had the thing in some mild form without even knowing it. It would be just like me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...box=1585146737
Wow - that's amazing - very good news !

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I wonder when/if we will be getting these in the US.

It would nice to know if I already had the thing in some mild form without even knowing it. It would be just like me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...box=1585146737
This is the biggest bombshell that comes out of this. All the people infected for such long periods with mild or no symptoms. It's obvious. That's how it spreads so wildly. The countries that clamped down and tested broadly, followed up by compelled quarantine, regardless of whether they were showing symptoms, those countries had better outcomes. Maybe it's not too late for the UK.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I wonder when/if we will be getting these in the US.

It would nice to know if I already had the thing in some mild form without even knowing it. It would be just like me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...box=1585146737
I read about that...sounds promising.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 3:31 am
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I wonder when/if we will be getting these in the US.

It would nice to know if I already had the thing in some mild form without even knowing it. It would be just like me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...box=1585146737
Is that the same thing they're doing in Colorado?
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This is the biggest bombshell that comes out of this. All the people infected for such long periods with mild or no symptoms. It's obvious. That's how it spreads so wildly. The countries that clamped down and tested broadly, followed up by compelled quarantine, regardless of whether they were showing symptoms, those countries had better outcomes. Maybe it's not too late for the UK.
I commute on a train, so I tend to assume that I've had everything. As a chronic sinus sufferer, sometimes it's hard to know if I've got something or whether it's just the usual.
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 3:35 am
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Is that the same thing they're doing in Colorado?
Not sure. I thought they were testing for active virus, rather than "had it in the past, now over it".
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Not sure. I thought they were testing for active virus, rather than "had it in the past, now over it".
Ah. Either way, it's good to see innovation. Throw everything at it. Why not? What do we have to lose?
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Old Mar 26th 2020, 3:49 am
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This is the biggest bombshell that comes out of this. All the people infected for such long periods with mild or no symptoms. It's obvious. That's how it spreads so wildly. The countries that clamped down and tested broadly, followed up by compelled quarantine, regardless of whether they were showing symptoms, those countries had better outcomes. Maybe it's not too late for the UK.
With all the media coverage of C-19, I'm just a bit surprised this hasn't been more actively discussed. It is such a big deal. Is the UK the first in the world to get this? It says 'Roche' will make it, IIRC. Roche is Swiss, so you'd think other European countries would have it. Roche also owns Genentec, a high-flying biotech company in Silicon Valley so you'd think they would be in on it also.

Just found this - https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en/...orization.html

Roche begins shipments of first 400,000 COVID-19 tests to laboratories across US to begin patient testing under FDA Emergency Use Authorization

Name for the test seems to be "Cobas SARS-CoV-2".

Interesting that the Guardian article about the UK 'version' suggests a 'home use' kit, like a pregnancy test, while the US version sounds like it's a test carried out by a lab.

Also saw this, describing a drug that they produce that 'may' be effective in some way - https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufac...covid-19-tests

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"The individual in question has not been charged as of yet. At this moment in time, he is merely (ahem) 'assisting us with our enquiries'.

He is being fingered for suspected of being involved on the periphery of a local trafficking ring."
I see, however it appears we have another Epstein. Found hung in the window before trial.
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So, the UAE is going to disinfect the country over the weekend...public spaces and all sorts, pretty impressive. Depending on the reports you read there's a curfew from tonight until Sunday morning when only key workers are allowed out, using their ID to prove work.

Other than that the government arrested 64 people for breaking their self-quarantine rules, the punishments should have been deterrent

The UAE's law on contagious diseases criminalises any “intentional behaviour that results in spreading an infection”.The penalty for this is up to five years in prison, a fine of between Dh50,000 (US$13,600) and Dh100,000 (US$27,200), or both.
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Wow, just saw some photos taken in Vegas, like one of those movies where all humans just vanished. Source on FB

Locally we seem to have a care home with a fairly big outbreak, 28 residents and 27 staff at just one home. Hospitalizations are slowly creeping up day by day, but seems to be going slow enough thus far for them not to run out of beds.

Looking at indeed, seems the top job options for those looking are grocery stores and care homes followed by Amazon, grocery stores are probably the least risky of the 3 options.

Anyone arriving into Canada will now have a legally mandated 14 day quarantine, the federal government invoked the quarantine act, or at least parts of it.

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Old Mar 26th 2020, 9:58 am
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Other than that the government arrested 64 people for breaking their self-quarantine rules, the punishments should have been deterrent
The UAE's law on contagious diseases criminalises any “intentional behaviour that results in spreading an infection”.The penalty for this is up to five years in prison, a fine of between Dh50,000 (US$13,600) and Dh100,000 (US$27,200), or both.
I think it's possibly the perception of the chances of being caught that acts as much as a deterrent as the harshness of the punishment.

I mentioned on my country forum a day or two back that the authorities here had announced that they would be introducing obligatory 14 day quarantine for arrivals in the country, but that I didn't have any further info as to the exact details of how it would be imposed or monitored. This was apropos of someone having booked a flight for early May - I was just advising that it might still be in place then. His response was that it was completely unworkable because there aren't any facilities or resources to march every person straight off and put them under lock and key so how was it going to be policed and presumably all it meant was being given a piece of paper telling them to go home and stay there for a fortnight and presumably, like everyone else, be allowed out to purchase food, medicines etc.

I might have another go at explaining what obligatory quarantine means if I can be bothered and if I can find a bit more detail, which is still eluding me despite my best efforts. I know that like there, people have already been detected in breach of our state of emergency laws and will have criminal proceedings instituted against them as a result.
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I think it's possibly the perception of the chances of being caught that acts as much as a deterrent as the harshness of the punishment.

I mentioned on my country forum a day or two back that the authorities here had announced that they would be introducing obligatory 14 day quarantine for arrivals in the country, but that I didn't have any further info as to the exact details of how it would be imposed or monitored. This was apropos of someone having booked a flight for early May - I was just advising that it might still be in place then. His response was that it was completely unworkable because there aren't any facilities or resources to march every person straight off and put them under lock and key so how was it going to be policed and presumably all it meant was being given a piece of paper telling them to go home and stay there for a fortnight and presumably, like everyone else, be allowed out to purchase food, medicines etc.

I might have another go at explaining what obligatory quarantine means if I can be bothered and if I can find a bit more detail, which is still eluding me despite my best efforts. I know that like there, people have already been detected in breach of our state of emergency laws and will have criminal proceedings instituted against them as a result.
I think a stamp that lasts 14 days isn't a bad idea. On the forehead or hand or something. I'm sure I saw this somewhere already - possibly India as I know they do similar for elections.

I've had enough videos locally of the police driving around and using loudspeakers to tell people to go home that the chances of being seen are reasonable. One thing the kind of political system we live in is good for is enforcing rules and laws very, very quickly and with pretty brutal punishments.
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I think a stamp that lasts 14 days isn't a bad idea. On the forehead or hand or something. I'm sure I saw this somewhere already - possibly India as I know they do similar for elections.

I've had enough videos locally of the police driving around and using loudspeakers to tell people to go home that the chances of being seen are reasonable. One thing the kind of political system we live in is good for is enforcing rules and laws very, very quickly and with pretty brutal punishments.
Yes, they put ink on one finger at elections, not heard about anything now.
Masks and thermometers are in plentiful supply and police are patrolling. Just had a Whatsapp from neighbour- in India---police have stopped workers who were paving our back garden ------until end of month.
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I think a stamp that lasts 14 days isn't a bad idea. On the forehead or hand or something. I'm sure I saw this somewhere already - possibly India as I know they do similar for elections.
All they'd need to do here is put your name on a list. I'm pretty sure that's already in place for those diagnosed with the virus, but who don't need hospitalisation.

If you're out and about here, the authorities can ask to see id and check it against that list. I presume that's how it works / would work.

We've got the loudspeaker vans, too.
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