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Old Mar 19th 2021, 3:41 am
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I don't know if this is in any way meant to be a meaningful remark, but actually no, it's "Shanna Swan, an environmental and reproductive epidemiologist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York"
A little off topic, but since you ask.
It was a small moan about links and the Guardian.
There are those who decry links to the Sun, Express, Mail etc as being, and rightly so, suspect.
But links to the Guardian are becoming more and more frequent and we are expected to accept what it says as truth.
This one has the ring of truth... but is it?.... Hence the Q.
I've taken to referring to the Guardian as Quardian simply to query a source that many are accepting without question.

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Old Mar 19th 2021, 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by dave_j View Post
A little off topic, but since you ask.
It was a small moan about links and the Guardian.
There are those who decry links to the Sun, Express, Mail etc as being, and rightly so, suspect.
But links to the Guardian are becoming more and more frequent and we are expected to accept what it says as truth.
This one has the ring of truth... but is it?.... Hence the Q.
I've taken to referring to the Guardian as Quardian simply to query a source that many are accepting without question.
Don't forget, we loved how you formatted your recent post in the covid/political thread ... we'll love you here even more if you do likewise
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Don't forget, we loved how you formatted your recent post in the covid/political thread ... we'll love you here even more if you do likewise
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I don't know if this is in any way meant to be a meaningful remark, but actually no, it's "Shanna Swan, an environmental and reproductive epidemiologist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York"
...and written by Erin Brockovich

It's been reported for decades that sperm counts have been dropping.

I see it as a good thing that will 'save the world'.
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by dave_j View Post
A little off topic, but since you ask.
It was a small moan about links and the Guardian.
There are those who decry links to the Sun, Express, Mail etc as being, and rightly so, suspect.
But links to the Guardian are becoming more and more frequent and we are expected to accept what it says as truth.
This one has the ring of truth... but is it?.... Hence the Q.
I've taken to referring to the Guardian as Quardian simply to query a source that many are accepting without question.

"It" isn't saying anything. It wasn't even an editorial. It was a comment column by a real person expressing her evaluation of a book that has actually been published. Which of that content is or isn't "the truth"? If you think the contents of that book may be incorrect, then read the book and comment on that.

"We" aren't "expected" to accept anything without question. We are expected to behave like normal intelligent people and be able to read news reports, opinion columns, book reviews, editorials, etc without being afraid that we are going to read something with which we disagree. I would suggest that we are also capable of using our judgement to appreciate the difference between a screaming supermarket checkout rag and a serious newspaper that contains not only news but a spectrum of opinion. Some papers print outright lies and some don't. Not every opinion is equally good just because someone stated it. Read, and use your brain for yourself.

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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
...and written by Erin Brockovich

It's been reported for decades that sperm counts have been dropping.

I see it as a good thing that will 'save the world'.

I'm always prepared to give her a read. And that was my initial reaction too regarding the sperm count, but apparently this book suggests not, if there is a sperm count of zero in men such a short time from now. It would undoubtedly be good for most other species though.
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 12:56 pm
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Yesterday was the warmest March 18th in Regina (11.1C) in 110 years.
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by dave_j View Post
It was a small moan about links and the Guardian.
There are those who decry links to the Sun, Express, Mail etc as being, and rightly so, suspect.
But links to the Guardian are becoming more and more frequent and we are expected to accept what it says as truth..
Do you think there might be a good reason for acceptance of the accuracy of Guardian content compared to the others?

The number of times certain newspapers end up in court should tell you something but as well as that there's the uncomfortable stuff not printed because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's been pointed out numerous times that the guardian gives space to dissenting views including guest columns by figures promoting the alternative case.

The Guardian is not perfect but it's the best there is (UK) by a long way.
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 2:05 pm
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Guardian is a preferred source for many on here so using it saves arguments.

To what extent it is better or worse that any other source is extremely debatable.
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Old Mar 19th 2021, 5:31 pm
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Guardian is a preferred source for many on here so using it saves arguments.

To what extent it is better or worse that any other source is extremely debatable.
Only in the sense that one might debate which football team was better out of Manchester City or Scunthorpe United.
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Only in the sense that one might debate which football team was better out of Manchester City or Scunthorpe United.
Guardian, the Scunthorpe United of the media scene?
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I'm always prepared to give her a read. And that was my initial reaction too regarding the sperm count, but apparently this book suggests not, if there is a sperm count of zero in men such a short time from now. It would undoubtedly be good for most other species though.
Not if those other species were seeing a similar decline in sperm counts.
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Not if those other species were seeing a similar decline in sperm counts.
Now that's an interesting thought.
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Not if those other species were seeing a similar decline in sperm counts.

That is a good point. I wonder if anyone is taking samples from random wildlife and testing to see.

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Old Mar 19th 2021, 7:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
That is a good point. I wonder if anyone is taking samples from random wildlife and testing to see.
This has been noticed for a few years. I remember it being reported when I was in the UK 7 years ago so it's not a recent phenomenon.
Apparently human waste contains stuff, probably hormones and such, that do funny things top wild life.
BBC NEWS | UK | Pollution 'changes sex of fish'
And at a second glance I note that this is dated 2004.
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