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Old Jun 8th 2019, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
No one does - Ami's juvenile trolling is an amusement that anyone can be so triggered, but that's it. Whenever approached with logic and fact she just crumbles back into the usual petulant anti-English diatribe - she's no different than those extreme wingnut brexiters before the referendum who thought everything wrong in the world was down to the EU.
Pot and bloody big kettle comes to mind .
You have gone from faux remaimer to no deal wingnutter...
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Old Jun 8th 2019, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by EMR View Post
Pot and bloody big kettle comes to mind .
You have gone from faux remaimer to no deal wingnutter...
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He shouldn't be so hard on himself. He's in good company, even if he did arrive very late to the party.
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Old Jun 8th 2019, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by EMR View Post
Pot and bloody big kettle comes to mind .
You have gone from faux remaimer to no deal wingnutter...
My arguments are mostly logical and factual.

No deal is the only democratic option - there isn't a deal that Parliament can agree upon and the referendum dictates we must leave - hence no deal.

Interestingly I keep hearing how "catastrophic" a no-deal brexit will be, but the projections of less growth of 6-9% over 15 years doesn't seem to be what most people would define as a "catastrophe".
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Old Jun 8th 2019, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
My arguments are mostly logical and factual.

No deal is the only democratic option - there isn't a deal that Parliament can agree upon and the referendum dictates we must leave - hence no deal.

Interestingly I keep hearing how "catastrophic" a no-deal brexit will be, but the projections of less growth of 6-9% over 15 years doesn't seem to be what most people would define as a "catastrophe".
Divide 9 by 15 then compare it to even current growth rates..
Wingnut mathematics...
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Old Jun 8th 2019, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
I'm not alluding to anything of the sort, I'm just certain that all this unrest is just a symptom of something far bigger and more widespread. Overpopulation, failure of globalism, I'd say they were the prime suspects
Will leaving the EU fix any of that?
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Old Jun 8th 2019, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Interestingly I keep hearing how "catastrophic" a no-deal brexit will be, but the projections of less growth of 6-9% over 15 years doesn't seem to be what most people would define as a "catastrophe".
We've had 10 years of austerity and asphyxiated economies due to the 2008 financial crash. That's part of what's led us to where we are.

Another decade and a half of the same definitely sounds pretty catastrophic to me, no matter what anybody else thinks. Of course, if we could release ourselves from the TINA doctrine on austerity economics, we might have a chance of moderating the catastrophe to some extent, but there seems fat chance of that at the moment.

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Old Jun 8th 2019, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by EMR View Post
Divide 9 by 15 then compare it to even current growth rates..
Wingnut mathematics...
Picking a more valid mid-point of 7.5% it would change our typical growth of 2% pa to 1.55% pa over those 15 years - certainly a significant reduction in growth, but hardly "catastrophic".
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Old Jun 8th 2019, 9:06 pm
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For me, its clear that leaving the EU has absolutely no upside for anyone, except a handful of traders and politicians hedging against sterling and the UK in general.

I for one have been advocating getting England's sorry arse out of the EU since before the referendum, before the UK starts disintegrating. The amusing thing is that it demonstrably can't seem to do that (for obvious reasons). And blames everybody else for it. As demonstrated here.
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Old Jun 9th 2019, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Will leaving the EU fix any of that?
No it won't but if we've learnt anything from the past it's that extremists get a foot hold when things are tough and there's a scapegoat to heap blame upon. Think of it this way, the general public don't get a choice in home politics, not really. Give them a real choice when most are right pissed off, bingo. Cameron should face a firing squad for what he's done.

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Old Jun 9th 2019, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
No it won't but if we've learnt anything from the past it's that extremists get a foot hold when things are tough and there's a scapegoat to heap blame upon. Think of it this way, the general public don't get a choice in home politics, not really. Give them a real choice when most are right pissed off, bingo. Cameron should face a firing squad for what he's done.
Hear bloody hear!



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Old Jun 9th 2019, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
Cameron should face a firing squad for what he's done.
Should we have a referendum on that?

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Old Jun 9th 2019, 12:11 pm
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It wouldn't be binding.
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Old Jun 9th 2019, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
No it won't but if we've learnt anything from the past it's that extremists get a foot hold when things are tough and there's a scapegoat to heap blame upon. Think of it this way, the general public don't get a choice in home politics, not really. Give them a real choice when most are right pissed off, bingo. Cameron should face a firing squad for what he's done.
And he may have opened the door to the break up of the UK, on top of everything else.

Instead of shooting the bugger, why don't we just have him go and life the lifestylle of someone just scraping by in Sunderland, maybe one of those people whose job has just evaporated.
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Old Jun 9th 2019, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
What is the "true brexit programme" please?
Do catch up. I've already told you fairly recently what a true brexit is, and "getting with the programme" is to accept that a true brexit is what the majority of the people voted for.
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
The blue "flag" looks more like the EU's. Perhaps it's EU citizens leaving Calais trying to get into the UK in the future?
Looks like EU boat people
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