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Old May 1st 2019, 7:22 am
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Can anyone please enlighten this expat what this party's policies are, regarding;-
Transport?
Health?
Education?
Pensioners & social care?
I understand for law & order they mainly revolve around bringing back hanging & public caning....
Ah, the political centre ground has a whole new meaning.
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Not sure the Greeks, Italians, Poles, Hungarians etc would agree.
​​​​​​Somebody been readin' the tabloids.
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Old May 1st 2019, 11:16 am
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Can't see the link between those 4 myself although judging by the usual drift of his posts, I'd say it's probably something to do with refugees.

If that is the case, he's way off beam since they have entirely different perspectives. The Hungarian people even overwhelmingly approved the EU's resettlement proposals when it was put to a democratic referendum. And the 2 southern countries mentioned regularly meet at 7-member summits where immigration and asylum is constructively discussed between them and forms the basis of their joint stance with the Commission on the matter, so I doubt they'd feel they don't have a voice.

Perhaps he can elaborate a little for clarification.
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Originally Posted by 007Steve View Post
Can anyone please enlighten this expat what this party's policies are, regarding;-
Transport?
Health?
Education?
Pensioners & social care?
I understand for law & order they mainly revolve around bringing back hanging & public caning....
Ah, the political centre ground has a whole new meaning.
Policiy? It's blue passports isn't it?
That should take care of everything.
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Old May 1st 2019, 12:18 pm
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Can't see the link between those 4 myself although judging by the usual drift of his posts, I'd say it's probably something to do with refugees.

If that is the case, he's way off beam since they have entirely different perspectives. The Hungarian people even overwhelmingly approved the EU's resettlement proposals when it was put to a democratic referendum. And the 2 southern countries mentioned regularly meet at 7-member summits where immigration and asylum is constructively discussed between them and forms the basis of their joint stance with the Commission on the matter, so I doubt they'd feel they don't have a voice.

Perhaps he can elaborate a little for clarification.

Notwithstanding the above, the Hungarian people are predominantly pro Europe / EU.

Hungary is a member of the Visegrád 4, along with Poland, Czechia & Slovakia.

About the Visegrad Group

The Visegrad Group (also known as the "Visegrad Four" or simply "V4") reflects the efforts of the countries of the Central European region to work together in a number of fields of common interest within the all-European integration. Czechia, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia have always been part of a single civilization sharing cultural and intellectual values and common roots in diverse religious traditions, which they wish to preserve and further strengthen.

All the V4 countries aspired to become members of the European Union, perceiving their integration in the EU as another step forward in the process of overcoming artificial dividing lines in Europe through mutual support. They reached this aim in 2004 (1st May) when they all became members of the EU.

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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Well the German thing lasted as long as 1945.

And most of Prussia is now Poland or Russia.

So they had a point.

As the EU has its origins in the regular visit of Germans then I can see the correlation.
Well, boundaries change, that's what they do - but Germany still exists - and as a formal federation of states.
As I recall, the USA is rather differently composed than it was when independence was declared - and the expansion was less than "voluntary" for those who opposed it.
But you're right about the origins of the EU - at its base it is the desire to prevent any further European wars - not something most people would find objectionable.
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Notwithstanding the above, the Hungarian people are predominantly pro Europe / EU.
Notwithstanding the above?

It confirms exactly what I said. Given the chance to tell the EU where to stick its refugee quotas, the Hungarian people decided to agree to them by a ratio of 60 / 40. Most voters very sensibly decided it was a silly referendum which they were having nothing to do with and simply didn't turn out, thus rendering the whole thing invalid. But not voting effectively put them with the Yeses.

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Notwithstanding the above?

It confirms exactly what I said. Given the chance to tell the EU where to stick its refugee quotas, the Hungarian people decided to agree to them by a ratio of 60 / 40. Most voters very sensibly decided it was a silly referendum which they were having nothing to do with and simply didn't turn out, thus rendering the whole thing invalid. But not voting effectively put them with the Yeses.
Well, yes.
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Farage's ambitions ... all he needs now is a manifesto
  • Farage said, if the Brexit party held the balance of power after a general election, it would do a deal with one of the main parties to pass a hard Brexit. Asked if he would do a deal with Labour or the Tories, if he had for example 50 MPs, Farage said:
If we could save £39bn, come out of the customs union, come out of the single market, come out of the jurisdiction of the European court of justice and be a genuinely independent, self-governing democracy that could choose its own future, I’d do a deal with the devil to get that.
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Farage's ambitions ... all he needs now is a manifesto ;
And a uniform, with a little hat.
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Old May 13th 2019, 4:42 pm
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Farage's ambitions ... all he needs now is a manifesto
  • Farage said, if the Brexit party held the balance of power after a general election, it would do a deal with one of the main parties to pass a hard Brexit. Asked if he would do a deal with Labour or the Tories, if he had for example 50 MPs, Farage said:
If we could save £39bn, come out of the customs union, come out of the single market, come out of the jurisdiction of the European court of justice and be a genuinely independent, self-governing democracy that could choose its own future, I’d do a deal with the devil to get that.
If he doesn't hold the balance of power after the next GE, will he go away?

As the next GE is up to 3 years away, can he waiti until one has been announced before he starts campaigning?
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Farage's ambitions ... all he needs now is a manifesto
  • Farage said, if the Brexit party held the balance of power after a general election, it would do a deal with one of the main parties to pass a hard Brexit. Asked if he would do a deal with Labour or the Tories, if he had for example 50 MPs, Farage said:
If we could save £39bn, come out of the customs union, come out of the single market, come out of the jurisdiction of the European court of justice and be a genuinely independent, self-governing democracy that could choose its own future, I’d do a deal with the devil to get that.
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If he doesn't hold the balance of power after the next GE, will he go away?
As the next GE is up to 3 years away, can he waiti until one has been announced before he starts campaigning?
Bearing in mind that a crowd-funded criminal complaint is set to have it's first hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court tomorrow against Mr Boris Johnson for 'misconduct in public office'; - that is for LYING, if I were Mr Fartage I'd be very, very careful what I now claimed. He may not be in a UK public office but he is an existing MEP, and Member States' legal principles have a way of ... expanding...
Keep very quiet Nige, - unless you like porridge (a free bit of legal advice there)
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Old May 14th 2019, 9:46 pm
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I see The Brexit Party for what they represent now, as in what they say on the tin; a party determined to hold our government and parliament to account for their betrayal of democracy on the Brexit front.

If they achieve that and nothing more, I will personally be more than satisfied.
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Old May 15th 2019, 6:53 am
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Considering how blatantly the public was hoodwinked on the "brexit front", I would have expected the Sun, Daily Express, Daily mail, and especially the "Brexit Party" to have been rendered to little more than comic book status by now.

But apparently not.
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