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Old Dec 26th 2021, 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Excellent point. The whole 'defund the police' issue is closely related to the BLM movement, and 'defund the police' is directly tied to police staffing levels. Every city I'm aware of that is experiencing these crime surges is clamoring for more police presence. One might cynically call it 'unintended consequences'.
Defund the Police was a poor phrase, seized on by the media and BLM opponents..

The aim wasn't to cut Police numbers, it was to cut some non-Policing tasks from the Police and use the money to fund other, more appropriate services to deal with this. These non-policing tasks include mental health and welfare calls, which in the main, are better served by people with appropriate mental health training and experience than a Police officer trained to see everyone they deal with as a threat.

Look up Toronto MCIT, where a Police officer has a dedicated mental health nurse as their partner for these types of calls. That system works.
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Old Dec 26th 2021, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Hiro11 View Post
Not sure why you're trying to shut down this discussion, I think this is 100% relevant. At the heart of the debate around BLM is the role of law enforcement. The linkage between crime levels and law enforcement role is central to this discussion. To me, there is a clear linkage between rising levels of crime in the US and the ongoing debate about the role of law enforcement.
Not shut down discussion - but maybe move it to a more suited thread.

There is one on defunding the police - Defund The Police - and I would have thought this discussion would be more relevant there. That was all. That was why I asked what the cause was likely to be.

What are your thoughts? Is it a BLM issue? - or defund the police? COVID? WTF USA?
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Default Re: The Black Lives Matter movement

Originally Posted by old.sparkles View Post
Not shut down discussion - but maybe move it to a more suited thread.

There is one on defunding the police - Defund The Police - and I would have thought this discussion would be more relevant there. That was all. That was why I asked what the cause was likely to be.

What are your thoughts? Is it a BLM issue? - or defund the police? COVID? WTF USA?
you need to look at this from an Intersectionality perspective they are all connected
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Old Dec 27th 2021, 12:15 am
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you need to look at this from an Intersectionality perspective they are all connected
Should we just have a single thread for everything?

Don't be an idiot. It's one thing to slightly drift in to other areas when discussing a topic, but how far do we let threads go off topic before the original points were lost?
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Should we just have a single thread for everything?

Don't be an idiot. It's one thing to slightly drift in to other areas when discussing a topic, but how far do we let threads go off topic before the original points were lost?
Often there are 2 or 3 or more threads a topic can be posted in, such is the nature of this forum. As long as it is somehow related.
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Old Dec 27th 2021, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Often there are 2 or 3 or more threads a topic can be posted in, such is the nature of this forum. As long as it is somehow related.
But I'm still of the opinion that the discussion of smash and grab rampaging gangs is better suited to the defund the police thread - or a new one of its own.

Your suggestion seems to be that black lives matter raised questions of police reform, and calls to defund the police, which has created this lawlessness and that is why it should be discussed here? Have I got that correct?

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Should we just have a single thread for everything?

Don't be an idiot. It's one thing to slightly drift in to other areas when discussing a topic, but how far do we let threads go off topic before the original points were lost?
Hard to gauge really when this site is so infested with f ucking bootlickers as it is.
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Well BLM is the top layer, defund the police part of it and the smash and grab under that.
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Why is this troll allowed to infest this site?
Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist: Police
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped...ry?id=72051536
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Well BLM is the top layer, defund the police part of it and the smash and grab under that.
This rubbish is why we get no new posters in here.

Or even old ones.

This sort of garbage will kill BE off. So many have gone already.

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Why is this troll allowed to infest this site?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped...ry?id=72051536
This is almost as surprising as that one time we wrapped a bottle of gin up as a Christmas present for my aunt, who only ever got gin for Christmas.
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Well BLM is the top layer, defund the police part of it and the smash and grab under that.
In your simplistic and racist view of the world maybe.
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This is almost as surprising as that one time we wrapped a bottle of gin up as a Christmas present for my aunt, who only ever got gin for Christmas.

Apparently you can be a racist troll on BE for as long as you want.

It will kill the site. There will be nobody else left.
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Apparently you can be a racist troll on BE for as long as you want.

It will kill the site. There will be nobody else left.
Will kill, or is killing?
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Will kill, or is killing?
Or has killed?

There is nothing worth having in TIO any more, and there will be no new posters with this crap being spouted. Unless it's people who want to join some sort of alt right group.
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