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Old Nov 22nd 2021, 2:24 am
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I'm not suggesting that the fiction caused the violent urges, rather it reflects them. I think it derives from the American frontier story and the celebration of the violence relating to that (killing Indians, unfortunately). Add to that the myth of personal liberty as depicted in gangster movies and the general fascination with the justice system.

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Old Nov 22nd 2021, 2:34 am
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I have not been able to find out, I assume his concealed carry permit was either not renewed or cancelled due his felony.
The gun was unlicensed and being illegally carried concealed. Irrelevant to the facts of this case, but still ironic.

As an aside a 9mm as fired byt the Glock would have twice the mass of a .223 that Kyle had and at a few feet range..
Careful, interjecting firearms knowledge is clear evidence that you are "obsessed with guns" and likely see yourself as some sort of frontier cowboy. Because that's how Americans think.

Also, what we know about AR-15s:
1. They are painted black and thus scary.
2. They are "semi-automatic" which as we all know means "machine gun", which is of course super scary.
3. They are extraordinarily powerful. Standard deer rifles like a .308 pale in comparison to the mighty .223/5.56.
4. They are utterly unique in having a "high capacity" box magazine.
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Old Nov 22nd 2021, 2:38 am
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Who knows. We could ask him?

But he didn't fire, did he, not even as the rifle was being aimed at him and the trigger pulled.
They did ask him. In court. Because he's alive. Also he said that Rittenhouse didn't point his rifle at him until he pointed his Glock at Rittenhouse. Which was actually presented on video, again in court. But of course you already knew that.



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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
I'm not sure where you are, but where I am, only specialist firearms officers carry guns, and they are the weapons of last resort, not the first.



A gun pointed a gun at Rittenhouse and still didn't pull the trigger in the time an untrained person with a rifle moved the gun into position and shot him.

That would suggest to me that the first person was using it as a deterrent, and failed. As I understand it, neither of them legally had the weapons in their possession, and now people are dead because both made stupid decisions.
In the UK. They are constantly wanting to recruit firearms officers. Loads of armed police in Liverpool and Manchester. See news reports everyday big armed , balaclava wearing police rushing up to people with fully automatic weapons. That’s in the UK. Now in Spain nearly all law enforcement carry at the very least pistols. Even the cash transport drivers are armed. Then look at all the weapons being smuggled into the uk that have been caught. All on you tube to see. Loads of guns all over Europe and loads of people being shot in the UK and mainland.
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Loads of armed police in Liverpool and Manchester.
Hopefully there are loads more in other areas, since the North West has a lower incidence (sometimes thousands lower) of police firearm operations per capita per annum than most regions in England.
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Hopefully there are loads more in other areas, since the North West has a lower incidence (sometimes thousands lower) of police firearm operations per capita per annum than most regions in England.
There will be of course. They are just the areas that I am familiar with. It’s pretty clear the police force is arming its self. The UK borders are breached and the police know it. They must be paranoid about something.
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There will be of course. They are just the areas that I am familiar with. It’s pretty clear the police force is arming its self. The UK borders are breached and the police know it. They must be paranoid about something.
Er … no. The police are professionals and act rationally. They don’t get “paranoid.” Threats from firearms and other deadly weapons have increased, the police increase the number of officers who are trained to use guns in proportion to the increased threat.
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Well, somebody's paranoid about something, anyway.

I think I can probably hazard a guess as to what, given the timbre of previous posts
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Well, somebody's paranoid about something, anyway.

I think I can probably hazard a guess as to what, given the timbre of previous posts
Indeed.

There is a tone of pleasure about the entire Rittenhouse incident and the trial on the part of some posters that is somewhat, well, revealing. And more than a bit sad.
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Old Nov 22nd 2021, 3:18 pm
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As an outsider, I believe all British people have bad teeth, live in Londontownburg and know the Queen.
So no gun/violence problem in the US then ?

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So no gun/violence problem in the US then ?

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Try harder. There's a big difference between my rolling my eyes at your armchair philosophizing about the "frontier mentality of Americans" and denying that there's a gun violence issue in the US. You know this.

I'd also make the obvious point that moronic 17 year old suburban kids with AR-15s and deluded action movie dreams aren't at all what lies behind gun violence statistics in the US.
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Try harder. There's a big difference between my rolling my eyes at your armchair philosophizing about the "frontier mentality of Americans" and denying that there's a gun violence issue in the US. You know this.

I'd also make the obvious point that moronic 17 year old suburban kids with AR-15s and deluded action movie dreams aren't at all what lies behind gun violence statistics in the US.
Ok smug guy, explain why there's such a love of guns in the US compared to other countries ?

Who said that suburban kids were behind the deplorable US gun violence stats, apart from yourself ?

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Ok smug guy, explain why there's such a love of guns in the US compared to other countries ?
How many other countries have enshrined the right to own weapons in a Constitution, second only to the right to free speech?
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How many other countries have enshrined the right to own weapons in a Constitution, second only to the right to free speech?
I'm afraid it's evident that these two are becoming mutually exclusive.
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Mary Lemanski, social media manager for the Democratic Party of DuPage County, was let go from her position Monday morning after posting a series of tweets comparing Kyle Rittenhouse to the driver of the SUV that sped through barricades and struck dancers, musicians and others during a Waukesha, Wisconsin, Christmas parade.

“It was probably just self-defense #Wisconsin #KyleRittenhouse,” Lemanski tweeted about the tragedy that left five dead and 40 injured.

I just believe in Karma and this came around quick on the citizens of Wisconsin.”

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