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Old May 29th 2019, 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Here is a map of the Middle East, lots of nasty stuff going on and we can argue where Israel is on the scale but lets put that aside for one moment.

It is difficult to even spot Israel on this map yet in some circles it seems to be the total focus, makes you wonder what that is.

Why the silence on the rest, where are the Divestment and Boycott campaigns?

Boiler, you seem to be equating anti-semitism with anti-Israel. As I have noted - and probably others have too; I can't remember - this is a deliberate redefinition of the term as it has traditionally been understood. They are quite different things, however diligently some misguided people (notably Israel's political leadership and their agents) conflate the two.

Anyway, perhaps if you started a thread with the title "Anti-Arabism - is it on the rise...?", or "Anti-Islam - is it on the rise", you might get the same sort of response. Or how about "Anti-British..."? Would we confuse the British people with the British government?
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Well I see that the UK Equality Commission has started a formal investigation into the Labour Party over anti-Semitism.
It seems that the only previous like investigation, in politics, was into the UK National Front !
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Now, if he's part of an anarcho-hippie tribe he must be a fellow Totnesian, all other anarcho-hippie Devonians are pretenders.
All Devonians should be able to agree with that statement!
Ottery St. Mary mostly I think, and a bit of Exeter.
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow View Post
Boiler, you seem to be equating anti-semitism with anti-Israel. As I have noted - and probably others have too; I can't remember - this is a deliberate redefinition of the term as it has traditionally been understood. They are quite different things, however diligently some misguided people (notably Israel's political leadership and their agents) conflate the two.

Anyway, perhaps if you started a thread with the title "Anti-Arabism - is it on the rise...?", or "Anti-Islam - is it on the rise", you might get the same sort of response. Or how about "Anti-British..."? Would we confuse the British people with the British government?

I never mentioned antisemitism.
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I never mentioned antisemitism.
Well no, it's a thread on anti-semitism so of course you didn't.
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Well no, it's a thread on anti-semitism so of course you didn't.
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Here's a nice idea. Gives one a little hope.

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Here's a nice idea. Gives one a little hope.

Deutschland trägt Kippa (Germany wears the kippah)

Yes, I was just reading that. As this article says, it's currently difficult to imaging a British tabloid providing a "cut out kippah" for this purpose. But it is important to remember that the bigots do not speak for us all, and to not surrender the national dialogue to their terms of discussion, in the field of anti-semitism or any other form of bigotry..

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ss-and-honesty
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Yes, I was just reading that. As this article says, it's currently difficult to imaging a British tabloid providing a "cut out kippah" for this purpose. But it is important to remember that the bigots do not speak for us all, and to not surrender the national dialogue to their terms of discussion, in the field of anti-semitism or any other form of bigotry..

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ss-and-honesty
Merkel could have at least apologised for her role in the increase, what can be done now is an interesting question and one that has no obvious answer.
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Merkel could have at least apologised for her role in the increase, what can be done now is an interesting question and one that has no obvious answer.
Trolling again I see.

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Trolling again I see.
So you think she should get a pass?
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So you think she should get a pass?

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Thank you for playing. Better luck next time.
Well ignoring the issue and going la la la is definitely one option, but why bother posting on this thread?
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...why bother posting on this thread?
Did you ask that of yourself?

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Did you ask that of yourself?
... No, no Bristol, you're asking the wrong things; - you've got to empathise.
1. Ask Boiler what the weather's like there at Khodinka Airfield today;- It used to be a rather bleak place, with only a base canteen - no Subway or even a Costa.
2. Ask how's the shift going - is everyone in, or being Friday has anyone thrown a sickie.
3. Ask if Boiler's whether she's in the "Aquarium" today (down a narrow lane with its own 10m high fence), or in the 'New Annex' with its cheerful yellow walls and beige carpets.
4. This being the 31st, whether the pay's on time - last month the old roubles were a day or so late
Empathise, Bristol, empathise.
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