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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 13042158)
I can't wait to see where the 20,000 go in the UK, hopefully there are lots of people ready to welcome them into communities.
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Re: Afghanistan
20,000 is a drop in the bucket
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Re: Afghanistan
It will be interesting to see which countries take in the Afghans and how many. Now how they end up being housed is anyones guess seeing as a lot of countries have their own problems with homeless people or unaffordable rental markets.
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Re: Afghanistan
Don't forget it was the US that funded and armed the Taliban on the basis that they were fighting the USSR troops who were invited in by the Afghan government in 1989. It was on the basis of 'my enemies enemy is my friend'. You reap what you sow, unfortunately the US and UK have turned their backs.
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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 13041958)
They used to have a nearly unlimited supply of fighters from Northern Pakistan, but now there's apparently some discord among the Pashtun there who are tired of war. Able to flow freely across the border because they're the same ethnicity, and living in tribal areas where the Pakistani army fears to tread, that's where they've gone to resupply, rest, and heal since this started.
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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 13042129)
Johnson and Raab going off on holiday then does beggar belief.
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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by morpeth
(Post 13042251)
Years ago driving through the tribal are I saw a house on the hill with 19th century cannons. Asked around who lived there nobody knew, one of village elders told me years ago someone had tried to find out and was promptly fired upon. Don't know if true but wouldn't surprise me. Saw boys carrying Enfield rifles ( or copies) taller then they because of problems with nearby village- or to take shots at any government vehicles that strayed from the road going through.
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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by morpeth
(Post 13042251)
Years ago driving through the tribal are I saw a house on the hill with 19th century cannons. Asked around who lived there nobody knew, one of village elders told me years ago someone had tried to find out and was promptly fired upon. Don't know if true but wouldn't surprise me. Saw boys carrying Enfield rifles ( or copies) taller then they because of problems with nearby village- or to take shots at any government vehicles that strayed from the road going through.
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Re: Afghanistan
Biden's presidency is under scrutiny as never before over Afghan chaos
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/polit...iny/index.html Tom Tugendhat, a member who served with the British Army in Afghanistan, lambasted the US President's comments. "To see their commander in chief call into question the courage of men I fought with, to claim they ran. It's shameful," Tugendhat said. "Those who have never fought for the colors they fly should be careful about criticizing those who have." |
Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 13042304)
Biden's presidency is under scrutiny as never before over Afghan chaos
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/polit...iny/index.html Tom Tugendhat, a member who served with the British Army in Afghanistan, lambasted the US President's comments. "To see their commander in chief call into question the courage of men I fought with, to claim they ran. It's shameful," Tugendhat said. "Those who have never fought for the colors they fly should be careful about criticizing those who have." Surprised that anyone in the British army thinks of the loss of 27 cities in 9 days as anything other than failure.It does seem true that they never ran, but walked. I think I understand the point he is trying to make. "Lions led by donkeys" or similar, but he hasn't worded it well at all. |
Re: Afghanistan
Part of a speech he made on Parliament yesterday which was applauded by all sides.
He served there and was referring to the people he served with. |
Re: Afghanistan
What's Tugendhat's explanation for the US and it's NATO partners, including the UK, spending $87bn trying to build an Afghan military only for it to fold its cards in weeks?
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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 13042354)
What's Tugendhat's explanation for the US and it's NATO partners, including the UK, spending $87bn trying to build an Afghan military only for it to fold its cards in weeks?
You can buy weapons you can not buy leadership |
Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 13042129)
Johnson and Raab going off on holiday then does beggar belief.
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Re: Afghanistan
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 13042355)
i do not know you would have to ask him
You can buy weapons you can not buy leadership |
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