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Nand Aug 21st 2021 2:24 pm

Re: Afghanistan
 
My father fought in WWII he made it back alive, the psychological scars seem to have been deep.

The twin towers were hit, a lot of civilian casualties. US attacks Afganistan. Trying to help them out from under Taliban rule has failed. So they left. A lot of scars on both sides.

kimilseung Aug 21st 2021 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 13042982)
Female interpreter wearing heels. Maybe the Mujahedeen didn't have the issues with women the Taliban do, no clue, don't know enough about them.

Mujahideen was an umbrella of many groups and ethnicities,, so many did and many didn't have the same issue with women. Some went on to become the Taliban, some were Bibi Ayesha, a woman War Lord, herself, According to the Reagan diary web page for Feb 2, 1983, the woman was an ...Afghan freedom fighter "held in custody for 4 months—tortured daily. She had been a medical student. Her Crime? Caught looking at a “freedom” leaflet"

kimilseung Aug 21st 2021 3:08 pm

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But mention of Mujahedeen makes me remember that it took them three years to take Kabul from Najibullah, sans USSR support.

kimilseung Aug 21st 2021 3:39 pm

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Originally Posted by dakota44 (Post 13042518)
We may see an updated version of Charlie Wilsons war......when the Mujahideen were provided with the weapons from the U.S. to fight the Russians in the 80's. The war lords are an unknown wildcard as to whether they would join with the Mujadhideen to take on the Taliban. As always, the country is at odds with itself. Good read here. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ahmad-massoud/

It is being claimed that three provinces have been taken from the Taliban in the Panjshir valley region.
Edit: districts, not provinces.

kimilseung Aug 22nd 2021 2:02 am

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Missing Robert Fisk

dakota44 Aug 22nd 2021 2:25 am

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13043081)
It is being claimed that three provinces have been taken from the Taliban in the Panjshir valley region.
Edit: districts, not provinces.

Not surprising, if true. Being aghast at the situation there, I will now refer to it as Aghastistan.

robin1234 Aug 22nd 2021 11:55 am

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13043194)
Missing Robert Fisk

I didn’t realise he’d died, until I saw your post. October 2020, either I missed it in the news or the notices weren’t that prominent. His work was solid and well researched.

robin1234 Aug 22nd 2021 12:00 pm

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13043081)
It is being claimed that three provinces have been taken from the Taliban in the Panjshir valley region.
Edit: districts, not provinces.

This raises a general question, how many districts (villages, towns) did the Taliban actually take with boots on the ground, or was it often sipping tea with the local powers-that-be, and an agreement - “ok, so you’ll report to us now? Good man!”

(BTW, if you go back on your word, we will assassinate you.)

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 22nd 2021 3:33 pm

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Afghanistan: Tony Blair says withdrawal was driven by imbecilic

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58295384

Us has mobilised civilian fleet and is now making combat landings.

Still think the consequences of this will be more significant that the current events.

caretaker Aug 22nd 2021 3:49 pm

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13043058)
Mujahideen was an umbrella of many groups and ethnicities,, so many did and many didn't have the same issue with women. Some went on to become the Taliban, some were Bibi Ayesha, a woman War Lord, herself, According to the Reagan diary web page for Feb 2, 1983, the woman was an ...Afghan freedom fighter "held in custody for 4 months—tortured daily. She had been a medical student. Her Crime? Caught looking at a “freedom” leaflet"

Most notorious, of course was Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda (and didn't they spread fast!). In the past 20 years the Afghans have had an extended course in modern warfare so the tactics of the Taliban evolved from the casual sporadic raids and bombings practiced by the Mujahadeen into the ability to capture and hold cities and fight battles. Whatever resistance they are encountering from warlords probably won't last too long now that the Taliban have been resupplied.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...5d976eb44d.jpg

kimilseung Aug 22nd 2021 3:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 13043342)
Afghanistan: Tony Blair says withdrawal was driven by imbecilic

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58295384

Us has mobilised civilian fleet and is now making combat landings.

Still think the consequences of this will be more significant that the current events.

Blair has gone further, he has now produced documents from Chad that prove that the Taliban are creating weapons of mass destruction.

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 22nd 2021 4:48 pm

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Much more likely is a messy civil war

philat98 Aug 22nd 2021 6:59 pm

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The Mail is saying the heroic British Ambassador was climbing onto a plane when the order came to get back to the Embassy. May be it was the same person who told Raab to cut his holiday.

caretaker Aug 22nd 2021 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 13043374)
The Mail is saying the heroic British Ambassador was climbing onto a plane when the order came to get back to the Embassy. May be it was the same person who told Raab to cut his holiday.

Makes me think of the Captain of the Costa Concordia.

Lion in Winter Aug 22nd 2021 7:59 pm

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Intent on making ourselves look good, I see.

Could we really not find room for a handful of security guards?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...L5E-PeXv1f9uwo


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