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mikeglover Aug 6th 2013 8:53 pm

zero alcohol driving laws
 
Someone told me yesterday that from 1st September, there will be zero tolerance on drink driving i.e. any hint of a driver having drunk alcohol will constitute an offense. Is this true? Haven't seen anything in the press but then we do live in the mountains.

Fred James Aug 6th 2013 9:07 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 
No it's not true.

However the fines are increasing soon under the new changes to the driving laws.

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...37_758080.html

andyrich666 Aug 6th 2013 9:17 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 
HI

Can I ask do you know if it is still half that you pay, i.e. you get nicked under .65 and your fined 500€ but only pay 250€ to get it over with quick

Also do you think with such high fines there maybe some level of corruption ?

mikeglover Aug 6th 2013 9:45 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10839116)
No it's not true.

However the fines are increasing soon under the new changes to the driving laws.

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...37_758080.html

Many thanks for the clarification Fred.

Neptuno Aug 7th 2013 2:03 am

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It's time there was zero tolerance of alcohol in ALL countries. As alcohol affects everyone differently, there can be no safe level.

Fred James Aug 7th 2013 3:23 am

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10839129)
HI

Can I ask do you know if it is still half that you pay, i.e. you get nicked under .65 and your fined 500€ but only pay 250€ to get it over with quick

Also do you think with such high fines there maybe some level of corruption ?

All fine have a 50% reduction for prompt payment.

The Guardia no longer accept cash. You have to pay by credit card on the spot or online later.

That pretty well takes care of the corruption risk apart from the slim chance of bribing them to forget it but that is highly risky if they charge you with attempted bribery.

Lenox Aug 7th 2013 8:16 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 
The new plans, under discussion, include breathalyzing pedestrians! Explanation on my blog here.

Domino Aug 7th 2013 9:18 pm

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perhaps that explains why my local solicitor, well known for driving his motorbike round the place without a helmet has had the police sitting near his offices lately.
can't miss them and his offices are under his flat. and he used to drive to work from one street to the next
:eek:

Lynn R Aug 7th 2013 11:38 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by Lenox (Post 10840743)
The new plans, under discussion, include breathalyzing pedestrians! Explanation on my blog here.

That'll keep them busy in Magaluf, then!:rofl:

billgates Aug 8th 2013 10:07 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by Neptuno (Post 10839513)
It's time there was zero tolerance of alcohol in ALL countries. As alcohol affects everyone differently, there can be no safe level.

Pity the poor pensioner with a bad throat who has just knocked back half a bottle of cough syrup.

mikelincs Aug 8th 2013 10:14 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by billgates (Post 10842276)
Pity the poor pensioner with a bad throat who has just knocked back half a bottle of cough syrup.

Just make sure it's alcohol free, simples..

An uncle of mine was driving his car, and he parked it in a public car park, a Policeman got out of his car and walked over, my uncle saw him and started to run (idiot), he was caught, and breathalysed and over the limit ( the policeman just wanted to tell him one of his side lights wasn't working), he said he would plead not gulity, so had a court case. On the trial day he changed his plea to guilty, and got the one year ban, in mitigation he claimed he had a bd cough and had been drinking some of his mothers home made cough remedy, which was almost all alcohol!! The police officers stopped him and thanked him for ruining their day off, they should have been on holiday, but had had to come in to give evidence, but weren't needed due to the guilty plea.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 8th 2013 10:47 pm

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by billgates (Post 10842276)
Pity the poor pensioner with a bad throat who has just knocked back half a bottle of cough syrup.

There's been a "zero alcohol" law in Sweden for as long as I can remember but as I understand it, it still makes allowance for a miniscule alcohol reading which may have been the result of medication or some other factor of which the driver may not have been aware.
Therefore strictly speaking it is not zero alcohol at all.

rspltd Aug 8th 2013 11:37 pm

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Endogenous ethanol production is the term for alcohol produced naturally within the body. Depending on the diet and other factors, up to about one ounce of pure alcohol can be produced within the body each day. That amount equals almost two standard drinks of beer, wine or liquor.

billgates Aug 9th 2013 12:19 am

Re: zero alcohol driving laws
 

Originally Posted by rspltd (Post 10842388)
Endogenous ethanol production is the term for alcohol produced naturally within the body. Depending on the diet and other factors, up to about one ounce of pure alcohol can be produced within the body each day. That amount equals almost two standard drinks of beer, wine or liquor.

Try explaining that one to plod when you're just over the limit.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 9th 2013 12:42 am

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Originally Posted by billgates (Post 10842466)
Try explaining that one to plod when you're just over the limit.

A test case in Court could be interesting.

Could the equivalent of 2 standard drinks produced internally put someone over the limit, or a new lower limit, in the absence of any food on the stomach ?


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