Mitzyboy

Afraid I agree with you there fully Kevray, and was going to post the same so you beat me to it. I don't see things through rose tinted glasses, but there is such a thing as having a bit of optimism about things.

Unexpat

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Attributing this to some government conspiracy shows that you do not understand Spain, or human nature too well. It's really quite simple. People try to do what they think they can get away with. The law in Spain does not generally interfere with the individual, unless they bring attention to themselves. It's not a "nanny state". Finally, each individual is responsible for the consequences of their own decisions. The state is not there to stop people making idiots of themselves. "Buyer beware".

This sounds pretty unlikely. More likely a case of a failure to communicate.

And they might well be quite happy "growing oranges", as you put it. At least that way the majority of young people might still be able to afford a house in the areas they were brought up in. Cause and effect. I'd certainly have to agree that many places have been spoiled due to an "unnatural" influx of people. That's a fact. Nothing to do with who these people are, but everything to do with the quantity and the reluctance of many to integrate. It just so happens that we Brits are in a majority in this group. Incidentally, "rights" come with respect for the rights of others too in any reasonable society.

kevray

Would have to agree, seeing as one of Spain's major exports is fruit, the derisory comment of "growing oranges" is a bit ripe.

Costa-Convert

Could not agree with you more kevray and ditto, if you don't like the way people run their business be it Spanish or British then don't use them that goes for all types of business surely!!

Costa-Convert

[QUOTE=ValenciaExpats]Remember everyone there is a lot of disinformation relating to moving to Spain, just the same as many other subjects. Most of the media and websites have a vested interest. Often users in forums are not quite who they would at first seem to be. People throw in comments such as the one about about passing the phone. At their prices I´d pass the fone at arms length.



I wonder who you are then?? I am a parent and wife and am moving to Spain in July this year I have a house and a car their already, I joined this forum because of sone of the useful information that in gleens. I do not often comment but I found some of your comments quite offensive and downright rude.

It is people like you that give the rest of us such a bad name in Spain not us we are just trying to be armed with as much info as possible whether exactly accurate or not knowledge is power, and when you are moving to another country then you need as much knowledge as possible.

Torretruths

Would beg to differ unexpat. If you read up on the subject you will find that the property price / earnings ratio is one of the highest in Europe. In reality most young people are unable to afford property. The problem is much much greater than that of the UK.

Unexpat

Aren't you saying the same thing I said? Please re-read what I posted

tim hortons man

Actually we were bored in Canada, we had been looking for something different when a job in Germany opened up. Main appeal is culture and lifestyle. We found taxes to be lower and wages to be higher than in Canada. Plus moving back would mean giving up 6 weeks vacation that and the fact I hate winter, Germany tends to have milder winters. (this year being the exception).

Having been here for 4 months (on long term project) I can understand why people move here, I wasn't so sure at first but I've fallen in love with Spain. Wouldn't bother that much if it turned into a permanent position.

Main negatives I find are the high unemployment and language and cultural differences, you need to learn a new language and culture in each country you move to.

patsywhitehair

just want to put my little bit in....
my partner and i bought a villa in Spain (Barxeta, nr Xativa,Valencia) a year and half ago. We finaly moved in about 6 weeks ago, oh what bliss, had a lot to do so have not been for Spanish lessons yet, hope to start in about 3 weeks time. he thing I am trying to say is.. when i look around our typicaly Spanish village and see the kiddies and their way of life I think how wonderful is this, so different from the kiddies in the UK. This place is such a great place for kiddies I am trying to talk my daughter into bringing my granddaughter over to live.
All the stress I had in London has slipped from my shoulders and I now wake up,go outside and smell the rosemary and the air and think,life cant get better than this.....
please dont say, what a dreamer, its just that it is soooo beautiful here.
go for it...... you only live once, whats the worst that can happen

kevray

You said it all Patsy

tim hortons man

I have to say that I've been in Madrid for 4 months now (resident of Germany but here on a long term project) and I must say the life style and weather do grow on you. Only thing I haven't been able to fathon is the late nights. I mean they are total night owls, dinner at 10 drinks at 2 am, how does one last the next day????

Not sure I'll be that Spanish till I retire!

Unexpat

Every now and again, you sneak in 8 hours and call it a win. Plus a half hour power snooze after lunch doesn't hurt And then you get to wake up to another day and it's hard to supress a smile in the early morning sun

millibug_1999

I moved to spain 9 months ago with our 1 and 6 year old. We live inland in Ontinyent and love it here, What does you husband do and can he secure a job before hand? The job situation is not easy if you do not speak spanish, but if you are adaptable and don't have a large nmortgage to pay then look into it here. remember things are cheaper but the wages are less too. If language is a problem then try Gibraltar or english speaking places. It can be done and the kids are easily settled in when young but it doesn't suit everyone. do as much research as poss and use that internet

try here www.loshildickos.com

an www.inlandtrader.net

helenp

My husband is a glass worker but I doubt he would find work in Spain easily that is why we would have to set up our own business. I have worked as an estate agent and I don't know how easy it would be to get work in Spain or Gibraltar if I needed to. Did basic Spanish at University and working on it but obviously the best way to learn is when you live there. Where abouts is Ontinyent?

kevray

About half way between Alicante and Valencia.
try: viamichelin.com

http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichel...=8&image2.y=14