Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
#227
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
The people at the Mijas healthcentre told me there is free healthcare if you cannot afford it - and this is confirmed by a number of articles I have read. When I get the chance I will dig them out
#228
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Oh yes, I suppose there could be a capital limit, never thought of that.
However, I don't think most expats know about this free healthcare. We are always told that unless you pay in, or are a Pensioner, or on Incapacity benefit, then you are not covered.
I have been covered all the time since my husband is on IB and I was classed as his dependent; now I am a State Pensioner I am covered in my own right.
However, I don't think most expats know about this free healthcare. We are always told that unless you pay in, or are a Pensioner, or on Incapacity benefit, then you are not covered.
I have been covered all the time since my husband is on IB and I was classed as his dependent; now I am a State Pensioner I am covered in my own right.
#229
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
The situation is very complex and there are due to be some law changes this year to make the system much simpler
Even the mayor of the community of Madrid - Esperanza Aguirre was caught out by saying that many people still didnt have the right to healthcare. It made the news that she didnt know the laws
#230
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
From some of the comments on here I think too many of you believe the daily mail and the mps. In my opinion this and the so called news papers are pushing the benefit thing to hide what is going on with the banks and the expenses claimed by the already well heeled.We should be trying to put and end to their gravy train. How many ministers do we have now?All getting extra payment for what? I thought they were all supposed to be involved. Does anyone know how many we had in 1946 when the task was a lot more difficult then I'm sure.I bet its a hell of of a lot less.
Of course there was the Westlands affair in the late 70s early 80s where the diversionary target were hippies peacefully gathering for a pop festival in the middle of nowhere where there happened to be a few ancient stones.
There will always be a large proportion of gullible people. This is why propaganda works.
A couple of the regulars here put "always question authority" as their tag line. I agree. That doesn't mean go against authority. It means ask questions, be well informed. Think and do the right thing based on good judgement of the facts. Those who don't are just sheep.
I don't care how you vote as long as you really know why, And I like the 'heated discussions' on here between people who never stop learning.
There are a few people on this forum who are disabled/incapacitated and have moved here to lengthen and improve their quality of life. I don't know anyone who given that choice would say."You know what...never mind, I'll die early in the cold and wet" Actually those people would cost our health service over there far more than they will cost the Spanish health service due to better climate and diet, as well as the fact that most are at least part funded from their own savings.
Good luck to all of them.
That's my rant for the day I think!
#231
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Riiiiight..... because Labour never did anything so despicable....
#232
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
The maximum numbers of paid ministerial posts are currently set by the Ministerial and Other Salaries Act 1975 Schedule I, part V1:
Position
Max no. (paid)
a) Cabinet Ministers excluding the Lord Chancellor1
21
b) Cabinet Ministers in total
22
c) Any other Ministers heading government departments or office holders listed in group 1 of the Act who are not members of the Cabinet plus Ministers of State
50
d) Ministers from group a) and c) plus Parliamentary Secretaries excluding Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury
83
(e) Ministers in total2
84
(f) Law Officers
3
(g) Whips3
22
Totals
109
1 The Lord Chancellor’s salary is paid by virtue of the Ministerial and Other Pensions and Salaries Act 1991, s.3
2 i.e. group (d) plus the Lord Chancellor
3 Additional Whips could in theory be appointed under other categories
Position
Max no. (paid)
a) Cabinet Ministers excluding the Lord Chancellor1
21
b) Cabinet Ministers in total
22
c) Any other Ministers heading government departments or office holders listed in group 1 of the Act who are not members of the Cabinet plus Ministers of State
50
d) Ministers from group a) and c) plus Parliamentary Secretaries excluding Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury
83
(e) Ministers in total2
84
(f) Law Officers
3
(g) Whips3
22
Totals
109
1 The Lord Chancellor’s salary is paid by virtue of the Ministerial and Other Pensions and Salaries Act 1991, s.3
2 i.e. group (d) plus the Lord Chancellor
3 Additional Whips could in theory be appointed under other categories
#233
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
All governments like to keep people disliking other minority groups, because they then obsess about that and fail to observe what the government is doing.
Labour has done some shite, no doubt, but nothing quite so blatantly descriminatory as that anti gay section 28? or whatever it was.
Labour has done some shite, no doubt, but nothing quite so blatantly descriminatory as that anti gay section 28? or whatever it was.
#234
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
The gravy train has 649 passengers plus the staff they employ to do their work for them. Benefit fraud?
#235
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
All governments like to keep people disliking other minority groups, because they then obsess about that and fail to observe what the government is doing.
Labour has done some shite, no doubt, but nothing quite so blatantly descriminatory as that anti gay section 28? or whatever it was.
Labour has done some shite, no doubt, but nothing quite so blatantly descriminatory as that anti gay section 28? or whatever it was.
What amazes me is how people are so quick to attack politicians and their salaries yet leave the likes of Charity CEO's and Union bosses, if you want to be shocked look up the Tax Payers Alliance website.... pretty shocking results, some Union bosses and a couple of quite major Charity CEO's are getting more than the Prime Minister...
#236
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
The maximum numbers of paid ministerial posts are currently set by the Ministerial and Other Salaries Act 1975 Schedule I, part V1:
Position
Max no. (paid)
a) Cabinet Ministers excluding the Lord Chancellor1
21
b) Cabinet Ministers in total
22
c) Any other Ministers heading government departments or office holders listed in group 1 of the Act who are not members of the Cabinet plus Ministers of State
50
d) Ministers from group a) and c) plus Parliamentary Secretaries excluding Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury
83
(e) Ministers in total2
84
(f) Law Officers
3
(g) Whips3
22
Totals
109
1 The Lord Chancellor’s salary is paid by virtue of the Ministerial and Other Pensions and Salaries Act 1991, s.3
2 i.e. group (d) plus the Lord Chancellor
3 Additional Whips could in theory be appointed under other categories
Position
Max no. (paid)
a) Cabinet Ministers excluding the Lord Chancellor1
21
b) Cabinet Ministers in total
22
c) Any other Ministers heading government departments or office holders listed in group 1 of the Act who are not members of the Cabinet plus Ministers of State
50
d) Ministers from group a) and c) plus Parliamentary Secretaries excluding Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury
83
(e) Ministers in total2
84
(f) Law Officers
3
(g) Whips3
22
Totals
109
1 The Lord Chancellor’s salary is paid by virtue of the Ministerial and Other Pensions and Salaries Act 1991, s.3
2 i.e. group (d) plus the Lord Chancellor
3 Additional Whips could in theory be appointed under other categories
Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
#237
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#238
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Why that question?
#239
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
I dont know if there is limit to how much savings you can have to be covered for free.
The people at the Mijas healthcentre told me there is free healthcare if you cannot afford it - and this is confirmed by a number of articles I have read. When I get the chance I will dig them out
The people at the Mijas healthcentre told me there is free healthcare if you cannot afford it - and this is confirmed by a number of articles I have read. When I get the chance I will dig them out
http://www.mtin.es/es/Guia/leyes/RD108889.html
Article 1 is the relevant bit.
Although the law only refers to Spanish nationals, the Govt introduced legislation a few years ago guaranteeing equal access to all residents in respect of access to health care
.