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bobd22 Sep 13th 2017 10:39 pm

Worth Signing
 
Thought I would post this link worth signing

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200004

mikelincs Sep 13th 2017 10:47 pm

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12337906)
Thought I would post this link worth signing

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200004

Waste of time, the current government has no intention of holding another referendum, so petitions like this will just fail.

bobd22 Sep 13th 2017 10:50 pm

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12337910)
Waste of time, the current government has no intention of holding another referendum, so petitions like this will just fail.

They may well do but if you never try you never get it costs nothing other than a few seconds to sign it so what's to lose?

spainrico Sep 14th 2017 12:59 am

Re: Worth Signing
 
Agreed. I have voted for it. After all, nobody knew what it all entailed in 2016. There is strength in numbers!

mikelincs Sep 14th 2017 2:49 am

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12338026)
Agreed. I have voted for it. After all, nobody knew what it all entailed in 2016. There is strength in numbers!

Actually a lot of people DID know in 2016, but there was a huge tranche of people who were persuaded by the outright lies told by the leaver camp regarding the £350 million a week for the NHS and would NOT believe the people telling them that we got most of that £350 million a week back in subsidies which we would have to find from government purses.

rspltd Sep 14th 2017 3:27 am

Re: Worth Signing
 
'would NOT believe the people telling them that we got most of that £350 million a week back in subsidies which we would have to find from government purses.'

The UK gave approx £12.9 billion to the EU in 2015 - that is as a free gift , no rebates, no subsidies, £12.9 billion is around £35 million a day. Where on earth do you think the EU got the money from to give us subsidies?

Retired in Euskadi Sep 14th 2017 4:34 am

Re: Worth Signing
 
The EU told the Irish, Dutch, & the Danes to vote again until they came up with the "right" result for the Treaty of Lisbon.
If we are a democracy, then the vote we got was correct, even if you don't agree with it.
As Churchill once said "Democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the rest".

scrubbedexpat142 Sep 14th 2017 4:49 am

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by rspltd (Post 12338116)
'would NOT believe the people telling them that we got most of that £350 million a week back in subsidies which we would have to find from government purses.'

The UK gave approx £12.9 billion to the EU in 2015 - that is as a free gift , no rebates, no subsidies, £12.9 billion is around £35 million a day. Where on earth do you think the EU got the money from to give us subsidies?

2015 figures-

Gross before rebate £17.8B
After rebate - £12.9B
Grants to UK - £5.8B

Total net contribution - £7.1B

= £19.5 Million / day.

Rotor Sep 14th 2017 6:52 am

Re: Worth Signing
 
I`m very happy with the way things are going so wont be signing that!

bobd22 Sep 14th 2017 7:01 am

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 12338235)
I`m very happy with the way things are going so wont be signing that!

The choice is yours as always I am not trying to influence any one either way

amideislas Sep 15th 2017 1:34 am

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by Retired in Euskadi (Post 12338164)
The EU told the Irish, Dutch, & the Danes to vote again until they came up with the "right" result for the Treaty of Lisbon.
If we are a democracy, then the vote we got was correct, even if you don't agree with it.
As Churchill once said "Democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the rest".

I don't think anyone is stopping the UK from leaving. Except the UK.

scrubbedexpat142 Sep 15th 2017 2:55 am

Re: Worth Signing
 
Signed.

This is what happens when you mess with Parliamentary democracy.

bobd22 Sep 15th 2017 4:00 am

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12338815)
I don't think anyone is stopping the UK from leaving. Except the UK.

Agreed I haven't seen anywhere that EU have said we should have another vote? Neither do I see this suggestion as anti anything. Simply checking with UK electorate that having negotiated with EU and come up with whatever the final outcome on the table is then UK vote yes or no to whatever that final deal is what they want going forward.

lurchio Sep 15th 2017 4:30 am

Re: Worth Signing
 
Done. IF the 'worm turns', it will be the likes of 'clueless' Davis and 'feckless' Johnson who will be the first to support another vote as they are clearly out of their depth, and can now see that staring them in the face. Tails, dogs, wagging? Tick,tock.....

lurchio Sep 15th 2017 4:37 am

Re: Worth Signing
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12338815)
I don't think anyone is stopping the UK from leaving. Except the UK.

Yes, big fish from the small pond now find themselves in crocodile infested waters, and in current true british style are only capable of beating off the ones closest to the boat. Trouble is, the clock is running down.Shambolic, no negotiations this month then due to mutual agreement, makes zero difference to the EU and puts the pressure on the UK. That old chestnut.....


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