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I'm not sure about the variable thing, i don't think it budges too much. (although it does budge because you can class your job as something it technically is but really isn't and pay less)

But yeah, I'm quite sure you have to pay it even if you aren't earning a cent.

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Yes she will have to pay this every month whether she earns money or not - in fact its payable if you lose money. It's also taken directly from your bank account so there is no avoiding it - same with IVA (VAT) and income tax both of which are taken quarterly.

It's worse in France where a friend of ours pays €900+ a month and has done so since starting his business there.

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She is coming over with her boyfriend and the business will probably be just in her name although he will help out but hopefully get other work in his own right. Is there any benefit in having a business partnership (if possible) or would they still have to pay this. He will probably just get casual work on an employed basis. What does anyone suggest is the best route.

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I pay around the same, i don't think there's anyway around it i'm afraid...

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Thanks,

a) ditto re the NT code, I made an application in August and i had a phone call saying i should expect a reply at the end of October....they've implied that as I go back to the uk for a week every six weeks or so I may have to pay UK tax for the limited no of days i'm there....

b) i don't know how i can get invoices together when i've nothing / noone to invoice! Surely there's nothing fraudulent in what we're doing? i.e. registered as autonomo, if ss don't give another option for people in our situation what on earth are we meant to do?! seems crazy... but i'm not that surprised i suppose.

oh and re paying ss in england, surely the benefit is that i can use the NHS if and when i'm there and plus will be able to draw a state pension when the time arrives...and assuming they still exist...

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who's Fred btw?

Re: Working In Spain for a UK based employer
 

No .... you are no longer allowed access to the NHS system when you are living here, except for emergencies, and if you aint paying into the system over here then you wont get cover here either unless you take out private .... You may be wasting your UK SS payments, and as you are subject to Spanish tax laws now you shouldn't be paying UK tax

You will be able to draw your state pension anyway, as you say assuming they still exist

Fred's an all knowing all seeing person who frequents here sometimes

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Don't people in the Valencia area get it free anyway?

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And the healthcare

Knocks going to Cadiz though

Re: Working In Spain for a UK based employer
 

Well we are still trying to sort out the SS issue with the Newcastle and Madrid, in the meantime my husband is still paying social security in the UK.
SS in Newcastle have now taken up the challenge of trying to sort this remote working issue, all be it with a lot of encouragement from me!

I have a file of letters between myself, Newcastle and the Madrid SS department. The spanish authorities just cannot get their head around the idea that someone is still fully employed by a UK company but working across the internet. The last letter we had from them said that my husbands company must set a registered business here and then employ him from that.
Newcastle have written back saying that it is wrong and again trying to spell out what the situation is.

Like others my husband could pretend to be self employed but again invoices would be difficult to come by, obviously there are ways around that but why should you have to do it.

In the meantime they keep issuing us with E106 forms until this is sorted out.
They have said that spain is one of the most difficult ss departments to deal with.

I have also made contact with someone who is charge of social security in the EU who is taking an interest in this and have asked me to supply them with full details about the problems.

And so the saga continues, I think there it is more likely that I may be able to speak spanish fluently then get this resolved.

Yvonne

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Knocks already in Spain, now Chiclana, before that Cadiz but rapidly thinking of moving to Valencia where you seem to have it sussed! How on earth does that work then? How come Valencia gets special treatment?!

...It would have been soooooooo much simpler to stay self employed but i'd miss out on all the perks - maternity cover being the most attractive....

Yvonne, my pain is your pain, i can't believe this is that weird a situation, surely not...When you say 'Newcastle' is dealing with your situation, is that the Centre for Non-Residents or is that just for tax?

i'm about to reply to your PM btw.

Re: Working In Spain for a UK based employer
 

Well, if he is not paying tax in the UK then technically he should really be sending them invoices. I know I have to send invoices to the Dutch company I work for (for their benefit, as well as mine)

I'm fairly sure that's the only way around it unless the business registers in Spain.

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Hi there, I was in this situation. Don't remember it being particularly difficult to sort out. I told the tax guys I lived in spain, they gave me my tax money back, i declared in spain (did the declaracion de la renta), they told me how much i owed them, I gave them that and that was it. I needed a letter from my employer tro say how much I earned in a year (Jan - Dec) and that I was based in spain permanently and they were happy with that. Took a while, cause of the difference in tax dates, and cause you declare later in the year here, but worked out fine.

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There is no problem at all with tax (apart from having to pay it! :thumbdown:) but the difficulty is with Social Security.

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Hello YMF,

I'm afraid that the correct answer isn't going to be what you are looking for but here goes.

According to the Seguridad Social - Reglamentos Comunitarios which is the system under which workers working for a foreign company in Spain fall under:

Workers contracted by foreign businesses to work in Spain.

"Workers contracted by a foreign business with the aim of carrying on their activity in Spain will be subject to Spanish legislation regarding the Social Security contributions before they are contracted to work. These workers are not considered displaced workers under the social security act, and are subject to the legislation of the country in which they carry out their activity.

The foreign business must apply to the corresponding Tesoreria General or Administration for a social security contribution account number to register the business with the Spanish social security and hence subsequently register the worker with the Spanish social security."

It probably isn't the answer you're looking for but it's how EU workers working in Spain for a foreign business are able to register with the social security. The other option if the business does not want to register in Spain is for the worker to register as autonomo (self employed) and invoice the company for their wages.

I hope this clarifies the situation for you.

David