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Will it be like this for Brits visiting Spain post Brexit?

Old Oct 22nd 2017, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas
That little former colony ....
It was thirteen colonies.

And that's only the British colonies, so not counting the bits acquired from France, Spain, Russia, and Denmark.

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Old Oct 22nd 2017, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by bobd22
What do you call it then? Variations in all spoken languages.
A foreign mockery of proper sophisticated English. They all wish they were English, you know. But there's only one true GMT and centre of the universe.
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Default Re: Will it be like this for Brits visiting Spain post Brexit?

Originally Posted by amideislas
A foreign mockery of proper sophisticated English. They all wish they were English, you know. But there's only one true GMT and centre of the universe.
Especially since a plurality of Americans are actually of German descent!
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Originally Posted by amideislas
A foreign mockery of proper sophisticated English. ....
If anything a mockery of real English, it is the snooty creation of the Victorian Era and early 20th century English, which was spread to the middle classes by the BBC in the middle part of the 20th Century. Much of what is ridiculed for being "Americanisms" in Britain are actually continuations of the English that settlers took with them during the colonial era, and but which later fell out of favour back the UK.

An exception would be most of the spellings that resulted from American attempts to standardize and simplify English spelling, but which in reality only created more irregularities. Such why "license" serves as both verb and noun in the US .... but there is still "advise" and "advice".

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Take me to a region or county of England where there is no regional variation in spoken English ? Same in Spain or anywhere else. Point I was making wasn't about accents or variations of spoken English but that America and it's spread and development of the world has more to do with English being a language most commonly used rather than England itself.
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Well, some relief here. No mention of cut-off dates:

Brexit: Expats given 'no disruption' pledge by Spanish government - BBC News
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Default Re: Will it be like this for Brits visiting Spain post Brexit?

Originally Posted by bobd22
Take me to a region or county of England where there is no regional variation in spoken English ? Same in Spain or anywhere else. Point I was making wasn't about accents or variations of spoken English but that America and it's spread and development of the world has more to do with English being a language most commonly used rather than England itself.
And I am sure the American movie industry played a big part in this. Working overseas most of my life, I have met so many people over the years who have learnt English by watching TV, especially Hollywood movies.
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Originally Posted by bobd22
Take me to a region or county of England where there is no regional variation in spoken English ? Same in Spain or anywhere else. Point I was making wasn't about accents or variations of spoken English but that America and it's spread and development of the world has more to do with English being a language most commonly used rather than England itself.
Absolutely true. But as we all know, "Global Britain" will soon be back to teach the world "proper" English. And they'll learn too, because everybody aspires to be as sophisticated as the Brits English.

(Well, at least they did many years ago, and apparently, we're going to return to that time when everything was so much better).
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Originally Posted by amideislas
Absolutely true. But as we all know, "Global Britain" will soon be back to teach the world "proper" English. And they'll learn too, because everybody aspires to be as sophisticated as the Brits English.

(Well, at least they did many years ago, and apparently, we're going to return to that time when everything was so much better).
I see that you have given up even pretending to not be a troll.
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Hmmm..
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Originally Posted by carcajou
But 57% won't speak it!

Besides - my original point was that Free Movement doesn't benefit the vast majority of EU Citizens unless they have language skills to a near-native level. With the UK out of Free Movement, that issue becomes seriously, seriously accentuated.
Yes we all know without the UK everything will go to the dogs. Freedom of movement will be dead!!! Such a drama. As there isn't high EU immigration into Germany or Austria or the Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Assanah
Yes we all know without the UK everything will go to the dogs. Freedom of movement will be dead!!! Such a drama. As there isn't high EU immigration into Germany or Austria or the Netherlands
True and can't agree here either:
Besides - my original point was that Free Movement doesn't benefit the vast majority of EU Citizens unless they have language skills to a near-native level.


Funny enough I live in Ireland and many jobs in our company require a foreign language, so we have plenty of Germans and French who benefit from Free Movement.
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True and can't agree here either:
Besides - my original point was that Free Movement doesn't benefit the vast majority of EU Citizens unless they have language skills to a near-native level.


Funny enough I live in Ireland and many jobs in our company require a foreign language, so we have plenty of Germans and French who benefit from Free Movement.
And how's their English?
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
True and can't agree here either:
Besides - my original point was that Free Movement doesn't benefit the vast majority of EU Citizens unless they have language skills to a near-native level.


Funny enough I live in Ireland and many jobs in our company require a foreign language, so we have plenty of Germans and French who benefit from Free Movement.
Freedom of movement benefits the vast majority of EU citizens hugely. Language has little to do with it. Friction-free trade and labour within the world's largest market however, does have something to do with it.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
And how's their English?
You'll find any level from beginners to native level. Just wanted to point out to Assanah that you don't need the local language to a near native level, as long as you speak another language (French, German, Spanish).
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