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Dxf Aug 18th 2021 8:45 am

What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Hola a todos,

Has anyone missed the Ayamonte Club? It seems to have been amalgamated without any announcement

Davexf

shirley and anthony hide Aug 18th 2021 9:53 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Dxf (Post 13042028)
Hola a todos,

Has anyone missed the Ayamonte Club? It seems to have been amalgamated without any announcement

Davexf

Someone’s pressed the wrong button.
Or the Taliban have gone further than anyone realised.

shirley and anthony hide Aug 18th 2021 10:01 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13042053)
Someone’s pressed the wrong button.
Or the Taliban have gone further than anyone realised.

Just seen half a dozen private messages saying everything has been moved .
So it’s goodnight from me, and goodnight from him .

bitmanev Aug 18th 2021 10:16 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Nice one, just seen a bunch private messages that my posts are moved to Spain

This comes so out of the blue?

moneypenny20 Aug 18th 2021 1:15 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13042058)
Just seen half a dozen private messages saying everything has been moved .
So it’s goodnight from me, and goodnight from him .

Why goodnight? All the threads are still available, nothing's changed, your subscriptions to the threads will still work. There obviously wasn't enough traffic on the Ayamonte board to make having a separate one worthwhile. It's quite normal for Admin to close and redirect traffic when there's not much activity happening on a board.

Jon-Bxl Aug 18th 2021 2:27 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 13042105)
Why goodnight? All the threads are still available, nothing's changed, your subscriptions to the threads will still work. There obviously wasn't enough traffic on the Ayamonte board to make having a separate one worthwhile. It's quite normal for Admin to close and redirect traffic when there's not much activity happening on a board.

Well its unlike the mods/admin to do this without any explanation, even out of courtesy, for a long running sub-forum...

Ive also got a load of messages in my inbox all saying the same thing, (I suppose, I'm not going to read them all...)... No-one wants that....

So right now, like the other posts, Im not sûre why this was done - though this may be a reasonable guess....


Fredbargate Aug 18th 2021 5:49 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
I'm disappointed by this

MEL & JOHN Aug 18th 2021 6:52 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
OH NO !!! There are always posts on it and particularly of late as we have been discussing the tests etc. Please admin do bring us back. Thank you

Rosemary Aug 18th 2021 7:19 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Hi Folks

The tech guys have been at work and it looks like they did not inform Bob the Site Lead in time for him to provide you all with an announcement.

All of the Ayamonte threads are now within the main forum so nothing is lost. Many, many times the threads in Ayamonte and the main forum are duplicated, issues such as Covid, travel, residency, driving licences etc are national not local so it makes sense for them all to be under one roof. Sub forums have a tendency to segregate members which is not what BE is about, we are all living in Spain so having one forum makes perfect sense. Ayamonte is a very small part of Spain so there is no clear reason to maintain a separate area in the forum.

I know that you are all disappointed to see it removed but I hope that you will all continue to contribute in the various threads.

Rosemary

Fredbargate Aug 18th 2021 7:43 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 13042139)
Hi Folks

The tech guys have been at work and it looks like they did not inform Bob the Site Lead in time for him to provide you all with an announcement.

All of the Ayamonte threads are now within the main forum so nothing is lost. Many, many times the threads in Ayamonte and the main forum are duplicated, issues such as Covid, travel, residency, driving licences etc are national not local so it makes sense for them all to be under one roof. Sub forums have a tendency to segregate members which is not what BE is about, we are all living in Spain so having one forum makes perfect sense. Ayamonte is a very small part of Spain so there is no clear reason to maintain a separate area in the forum.

I know that you are all disappointed to see it removed but I hope that you will all continue to contribute in the various threads.

Rosemary

I'm not

Rosemary Aug 18th 2021 7:53 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13042143)
I'm not

Ha, ha, very true.

Rosemary

bxpuser24710519 Aug 18th 2021 8:00 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
99 private messages resulting from the amalgamation ..

ElizabethAnn Aug 18th 2021 8:01 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
So, How do I now find previous threads of information? Also, how do I ask for local information? We used to be able to get VERY HELPFUL local information via the Ayamonte Forum. ?????

ElizabethAnn Aug 18th 2021 8:13 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
OMG There are 1117 pages in the Spain Forum - they have to be kidding!!!!! How can I find what I am looking for????? I suspect people like me will abandon this platform and revert to Facebook Groups for local advice. Maybe that is what they want.

Anyway, I'll give it a try here. Can anyone local to Ayamonte advise me on changing my Green Residency Card for the TIE. I've looked at all the UK Govt. advice and tried to follow the instructions and FAILED! I hate failing but don't seem to be able to put all the pieces of admin together...

So, has anyone used a local Gestor to complete the process? Can anyone recommend someone, how much will it likely cost (not the fee for the card which is 12€) and am I best to wait until September when all the holidays are over.
Thank in advance to anyone who can guide me through the process.

christmasoompa Aug 18th 2021 8:20 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by ElizabethAnn (Post 13042163)
OMG There are 1117 pages in the Spain Forum - they have to be kidding!!!!! How can I find what I am looking for????? I suspect people like me will abandon this platform and revert to Facebook Groups for local advice. Maybe that is what they want.

Anyway, I'll give it a try here. Can anyone local to Ayamonte advise me on changing my Green Residency Card for the TIE. I've looked at all the UK Govt. advice and tried to follow the instructions and FAILED! I hate failing but don't seem to be able to put all the pieces of admin together...

So, has anyone used a local Gestor to complete the process? Can anyone recommend someone, how much will it likely cost (not the fee for the card which is 12€) and am I best to wait until September when all the holidays are over.
Thank in advance to anyone who can guide me through the process.

There is a search feature that should bring up relevant threads, just as if you'd searched in the Ayamonte forum.

If you start your own thread with your question (it's likely to be missed tucked away in this thread), I'm sure people will be able to help.

HTH & good luck.

ElizabethAnn Aug 18th 2021 8:28 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Thanks. I've started my own thread.

moneypenny20 Aug 19th 2021 2:51 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Maybe if you have a local question you just put Ayemonte in the title. The Search and Advance Search work well and if you've posted in a thread, you'll likely be subscribed to it and so it'll show up in your Subscribed list.

MEL & JOHN Aug 19th 2021 2:57 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
I was thinking it might be a good idea to put "Ayamonte" as the first word in any new posting

Notdunroamin Aug 19th 2021 3:17 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Not a bad idea generally. In many instances it ​​​​​​ca n be very helpful knowing the area someone is posting from.

Fredbargate Aug 19th 2021 3:20 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by MEL & JOHN (Post 13042312)
I was thinking it might be a good idea to put "Ayamonte" as the first word in any new posting

When the Gibraltar sub-forum was removed I started a thread titled GIBRALTAR now progressed to GIBRALTAR 2 and posted all that was Gibraltar specific in that thread,

Alexi Aug 19th 2021 8:06 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
I’m new and have just subscribed to the Ayamonte forum. Very disappointed as was looking forward to useful info. I’m not that savvy and can’t see myself using this site any more. Too complicated for me unfortunately as only interested in things to do with and going on in Ayamonte and close surrounds.

Dxf Aug 19th 2021 8:48 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13042321)
When the Gibraltar sub-forum was removed I started a thread titled GIBRALTAR now progressed to GIBRALTAR 2 and posted all that was Gibraltar specific in that thread,

Hola,

That could be a good idea for information, but with the number of people that live in the area, if you think about replies and "chit chat" then it would soon become unwieldy. If it were renewed monthly as in "Ayamonte 2021 August" and then "Ayamonte 2021 September" etc, then it could work but I think that the mods should be asked about the feasibility

Davexf

kazcharl Aug 19th 2021 8:58 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 13042111)
Well its unlike the mods/admin to do this without any explanation, even out of courtesy, for a long running sub-forum...

Ive also got a load of messages in my inbox all saying the same thing, (I suppose, I'm not going to read them all...)... No-one wants that....

So right now, like the other posts, Im not sûre why this was done - though this may be a reasonable guess....

very disappointed this has happened

Rosemary Aug 19th 2021 10:45 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Dxf (Post 13042436)
Hola,

That could be a good idea for information, but with the number of people that live in the area, if you think about replies and "chit chat" then it would soon become unwieldy. If it were renewed monthly as in "Ayamonte 2021 August" and then "Ayamonte 2021 September" etc, then it could work but I think that the mods should be asked about the feasibility

Davexf

Not a good idea at all. The Spain forum would become chaotic if every area followed suit. Members from other areas often ask for help with things such as "where can I buy............" and then say for example "in Javea". People in the know then provide them with the information. It is very easy to take part in the forum in this manner.

Rosemary

moneypenny20 Aug 19th 2021 3:42 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
I'm interested to know how some of you think the rest of the BE forum works? Ayemonte is was the only sub forum dedicated to one very small area of a country. Every other forum is country specific and no one has a problem navigating the site for what they want. I'm honestly confused.

ElizabethAnn Aug 19th 2021 6:21 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Where do I find my "subscribed" list please? I can't find it. Dhu!
Hopefully, all will become a bit clearer shortly. Thanks

BEVS Aug 19th 2021 6:49 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by ElizabethAnn (Post 13042554)
Where do I find my "subscribed" list please? I can't find it. Dhu!
Hopefully, all will become a bit clearer shortly. Thanks

Do you use a phone or a laptop ?

ElizabethAnn Aug 19th 2021 7:08 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 13042559)
Do you use a phone or a laptop ?


I use both (iOS). Sorry but I suspect I’m not subscribed to any that I didn’t start. I didn’t need to subscribe to them the way it was functioning as an AYAMONTE sub forum so it never came up as an issue before. Sorry again.

ElizabethAnn Aug 19th 2021 7:16 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 13042529)
I'm interested to know how some of you think the rest of the BE forum works? Ayemonte is was the only sub forum dedicated to one very small area of a country. Every other forum is country specific and no one has a problem navigating the site for what they want. I'm honestly confused.

I suspect it’s connected with familiarity. If it worked in a particular way when we joined - and clearly it did - we have not used many if the features that other users are familiar with. Now the rug has been pulled out from under us and we don’t have the foundation that others got from the beginning. I’m very IT savvy but was lost in the platform to begin with and still can’t find my past familiar Threads as I wasn’t subscribed to any if them. Is this any help?

christmasoompa Aug 19th 2021 8:44 pm

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by ElizabethAnn (Post 13042565)
I use both (iOS). Sorry but I suspect I’m not subscribed to any that I didn’t start. I didn’t need to subscribe to them the way it was functioning as an AYAMONTE sub forum so it never came up as an issue before. Sorry again.

You can find all of your previous posts just by clicking on your username and selecting from the drop down menu. You can then choose to subscribe to any of the threads you've posted in that you wish.

If you did subscribe to any, then you can find them on your profile.

HTH.

Bob Aug 20th 2021 6:08 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
What Rosemary said.

Sorry for a lack of an announcement, had tech look into it, and then it happened before an announcement could be made.

There really wasn't enough traffic to support a sub forum for one particular area in Spain. The search function can be used to search out a particular area of the site, and all the information is still there.


Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 13042139)
Hi Folks

The tech guys have been at work and it looks like they did not inform Bob the Site Lead in time for him to provide you all with an announcement.

All of the Ayamonte threads are now within the main forum so nothing is lost. Many, many times the threads in Ayamonte and the main forum are duplicated, issues such as Covid, travel, residency, driving licences etc are national not local so it makes sense for them all to be under one roof. Sub forums have a tendency to segregate members which is not what BE is about, we are all living in Spain so having one forum makes perfect sense. Ayamonte is a very small part of Spain so there is no clear reason to maintain a separate area in the forum.

I know that you are all disappointed to see it removed but I hope that you will all continue to contribute in the various threads.

Rosemary


Rita_ Aug 20th 2021 7:59 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 
Really disappointing and actually many things are not universal across Spain, most issues with maintaining/ living in a home abroad are very specific to the area and indeed Ayamonte, Isla Canela and CE share a border with Portugal so there is the added element of information relevant to Portugal. No doubt it is easier for the forum to manage, but the question is why get rid of a working forum that worked for all the participants? Is it a resource issue, advert revenue, what are the solutions rather than the problems. I have been dipping into this forum for over 10 years and while I am not a big poster, it has been a constant source of great information, generously shared. Rather than shutting it down, is it not a model for how local communities share information??

christmasoompa Aug 20th 2021 9:41 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Rita_ (Post 13042782)
Really disappointing and actually many things are not universal across Spain, most issues with maintaining/ living in a home abroad are very specific to the area and indeed Ayamonte, Isla Canela and CE share a border with Portugal so there is the added element of information relevant to Portugal. No doubt it is easier for the forum to manage, but the question is why get rid of a working forum that worked for all the participants? Is it a resource issue, advert revenue, what are the solutions rather than the problems. I have been dipping into this forum for over 10 years and while I am not a big poster, it has been a constant source of great information, generously shared. Rather than shutting it down, is it not a model for how local communities share information??

It’s still the same source of great information, just in a different place.

As above, no other forums have this. All countries have things that aren’t universal across the whole country and are specific to the area, but it works fine for all other forums. If, for example, somebody has a question about something in Quebec, they just start a thread in the main Canada forum with a relevant thread title. Ditto people in New Zealand who live in North & South Islands, both post under the same NZ forum. Ditto those in the US, where every state has it’s own laws and regulations, but they still all post under the one general US forum. Etc, etc.

It’s just something new to get used to, but it’s still the same BE, just with Ayamonte threads now under the Spain forum instead. Nothing has really changed other than the title of where you need to post.

HTH.

Rosemary Aug 20th 2021 10:01 am

Re: What happened to Ayamonte?
 

Originally Posted by Rita_ (Post 13042782)
Really disappointing and actually many things are not universal across Spain, most issues with maintaining/ living in a home abroad are very specific to the area and indeed Ayamonte, Isla Canela and CE share a border with Portugal so there is the added element of information relevant to Portugal. No doubt it is easier for the forum to manage, but the question is why get rid of a working forum that worked for all the participants? Is it a resource issue, advert revenue, what are the solutions rather than the problems. I have been dipping into this forum for over 10 years and while I am not a big poster, it has been a constant source of great information, generously shared. Rather than shutting it down, is it not a model for how local communities share information??

Every province has its own quirks and differences. Often when people compare notes they discover that the various offices cause different experiences, in fact even more often they find that each official may have their own version within the same office so we all know that things vary. BE is a great source of information for all members regardless of which area they actually live in and that has not changed at all. It is not a resource issue or about advert revenue but simple making the whole of the Spain forum equal for all members.

Rosemary


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