doo

Do you have to prove your income if you apt share? If a local Spanish person has an apartment/house to share, and you give them rent for the room, do you need to prove your income for them to rent to you? Or is that for applying for residency if staying over 3 months?

Mitzyboy

Im afraid you'd have to explain a little more
If you are coming to live here permanently then you have to prove your income to sign on the foreigners list (residency). Thats if you rent, buy, sleep in the street, or whatever. It's not about proving that you can afford to pay your rent, if thats what you mean

Pocaloca

You have to prove you have enough income to support yourself when you apply for your residency, i.e. if you plan to stay more than three months. It isn't anything to do with your rent or accommodation.

I suppose a landlord might want to be reassured you can pay the rent, but he has no legal right to ask for proof of income.

Dick Dasterdly

I think the main purpose is to avoid you becoming a burden on the State, though why they are so concerned alludes me somewhat, as they do very little to look after their own.

TheLostPhotographer

I think it is simply the government trying to control unemployment figures. Many people still arrive looking for work - there are no longer any jobs up for grabs. Perhaps the news hasn't reached some places yet?

I was talking to a street accordian player today. He moved here with his family on a promised job working as security on construction sites. He now has to busk to make enough money. He's not alone. Many people followed false promises.

Dick Dasterdly

I recall it was the same back in the early 1990s recession so maybe there's something in that.

davidinspain

Confused x 2 as you say if you haven't worked here you get no health cover or benefits and I always thought it was a right of every EU citizen to live in an EU member country.I remember when I lived in France somebody challenged Frances right to make you apply for a C/S

Fred James

It is but under EU law the new country can insist on you meeting certain criteria with regard to having adequate financial means and health cover.

Chiclanagir

So what would happen if they said that you didn´t have enough financial means and you own a house and live here?

Fred James

Probably not a lot. Obviously you wouldn't have your nice shiny foreigners registration certificate but unless you needed it for some official reason it wouldn't make much difference.

There wouldn't be much point in deporting you as you could come back in again the next day and the 90 day clock starts ticking again.

You could ask a similar question "what happens if I can't be bothered to register" and I guess the answer would be pretty much the same.

Until the possession of the certificate is linked in with all the other procedures it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Abyss-Rover

The new restrictions are based on the fact that you have enough finances to support yourself (and any family) and that you have medical insurance.

I believe that their main aim is to prevent foreigners from abusing the system, that is already overflowing with legitimate Spanish needs. To understand this more clearly, take a look at the situation in the UK. Then you will see what Spain is trying to avoid.

All the Spanish are asking for is: that you can support yourself and that you will not be abusing their health system, simples.

Fred James

It's pretty obvious why they are doing it but it's very difficult to answer the question asked as to what they will do if you don't meet the new requirements.

doo

Ah ok, I get it now. How much is sufficient?

Fred James

There doesn't seem to be a definitive answer to that question.

The EU residency law, which is where this originates, says this:-

Member States may not lay down a fixed amount which they regard as "sufficient resources" but they must take into account the personal situation of the person concerned. In all cases this amount shall not be higher than the threshold below which nationals of the host Member State become eligible for social assistance, or, where this criterion is not applicable, higher than the
minimum social security pension paid by the host Member State.

So your guess is as good as mine

Domino

seems quite plain to me Fred, just the bit about "personal situation" that puts a wrinkle in the way.