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Old May 13th 2012, 3:29 am
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I've been told that I need to apply for a registration certificate and not a residence permit because permits are required people who are from non eu countries but also retired people from both eu and non eu countries.

I read this in a guide on Spain I am currently reading:

If, after three months, you don't have a job you must leave Spain as you are only permitted to stay for only 3 months without a residence permit. A residence permit will not be issued if you do not have a job or adequate income.
Surely that is for non eu citizens?

I am planning on working in Spain, I am 21 so nowhere near retirement age.

Which do I apply for? I am really confused.

Whoops, I spelled registration wrong in the title.
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Originally Posted by lokalokaloka
I've been told that I need to apply for a registration certificate and not a residence permit because permits are required people who are from non eu countries but also retired people from both eu and non eu countries.

I read this in a guide on Spain I am currently reading:

If, after three months, you don't have a job you must leave Spain as you are only permitted to stay for only 3 months without a residence permit. A residence permit will not be issued if you do not have a job or adequate income.
Surely that is for non eu citizens?

I am planning on working in Spain, I am 21 so nowhere near retirement age.

Which do I apply for? I am really confused.

Whoops, I spelled registration wrong in the title.
if you are an EU citizen you don't need a permit to stay - you can stay as long as you like, but should register as resident & get a resident cert

as of 24th April they are now asking for proof of income & either right o healthcare here or private health ins, before issuing resident certs - but legally they can't chuck you out of the country for not having one


confused - so are they..................


where exactly did you read this - do you have a link ?

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Old May 13th 2012, 6:08 am
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but legally they can't chuck you out of the country for not having one
I think they can - but they won't. As soon as you leave the country you are entitled to re-enter as a tourist for another 90 days so it would be rather pointless.
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My husband and I have 67 euros less per month than the income amount they are apparently asking for proof of, I am British so presumably, even though he is American, we will both have the EU rights to not be kicked out if we cant get the registration? Will savings help to make up the difference we are short does anyone know?
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Originally Posted by Fred James
I think they can - but they won't. As soon as you leave the country you are entitled to re-enter as a tourist for another 90 days so it would be rather pointless.
I was thinking along the lines of them kicking you out permanently - that's not likely to happen I reckon


as the OP is an EU citizen he just registers as resident, right, as opposed to 'applying for a permit' .......... although it does seem now that you'll need to prove income regardless, doesn't it?
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Frankly if your income is that low I doubt that you will be able to afford to live in Spain.

Getting a job to increase your income is likely to be difficult or almost impossible at the present time.

Lynnxa - yes you're right - they can't kick you out permanently unless you are a paid up Al Quaida operative!

Yes the OP registers as an EU citizen and gets the green card and the OH get a nice plastic Residencia card - you know - the one we all want!
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Frankly if your income is that low I doubt that you will be able to afford to live in Spain.

Getting a job to increase your income is likely to be difficult or almost impossible at the present time.

Lynnxa - yes you're right - they can't kick you out permanently unless you are a paid up Al Quaida operative!

Yes the OP registers as an EU citizen and gets the green card and the OH get a nice plastic Residencia card - you know - the one we all want!
She did mention that they have savings as well. I did ask the question in another thread as to whether a lump sum would be accepted as proof of ability to support oneself (when we arrived 5 years ago we had no 'income' at all, just capital, and some people planning to move might be in a similar situation) but nobody responded to that. I'm still interested, if anybody knows?
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Thankyou Lynn, yes we do have savings as a back up and I did do lots of research before we came here and if we live modestly we will be able to afford to live here, I didnt know about the recent changes about proving your income until the day we arrived in Spain, even though I had asked the question a lot before we came but nobody knew about it. We are here now so will have to try and sort things out, if we had known before we would have stayed in Chile but nevermind, life throws things at us, we have to deal with them.
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My local office doesn't require any proof of income nor health cover at the current time. Must be similar elsewhere.

Spain regularly introduces and re-introduces laws without any intention of enforcement.

I see it as just bully tactics. All we can do is play along with it. If extra documents are required, well, just "create" them, like everyone else. It's not as if they will check it out!!
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My local office doesn't require any proof of income nor health cover at the current time. Must be similar elsewhere.

Spain regularly introduces and re-introduces laws without any intention of enforcement.

I see it as just bully tactics. All we can do is play along with it. If extra documents are required, well, just "create" them, like everyone else. It's not as if they will check it out!!
the Denia office asked someone on our local fb group for her vida laboral last week............... how would you sugest she 'create' one of those
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Well I went down to our local office to renew my residencia today. I was told I couldn´t as the law had changed and they were waiting for instructions. This could be one week, two weeks or ...............!
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