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Dick Dasterdly Nov 6th 2012 9:57 am

Well done Cameron
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20217901

The cheek of the woman, p!ssing of to Australia for a whole month for some dumb TV show.
To think that these MPs complain about being overworked, needing secretaries and running up all sorts of other expenses, yet they can just walk off the job for a whole month.
Let's hope her suspension leads to her sacking or resignation. :thumbdown:

dunmovin Nov 6th 2012 5:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10369615)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20217901

The cheek of the woman, p!ssing of to Australia for a whole month for some dumb TV show.
To think that these MPs complain about being overworked, needing secretaries and running up all sorts of other expenses, yet they can just walk off the job for a whole month.
Let's hope her suspension leads to her sacking or resignation. :thumbdown:

HMMMM.... let's see, if Joe Bloggs "walked of the job" for a week, let alone a month, would he have a job to come back to? Will she still be paid as an MP during this time? Who is doing her job while she makes a fool of herself for tv?

rugbymatt Nov 6th 2012 6:31 pm

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This really troubles me. If she was one of the inner circle I very much doubt she would have been suspended but she is Nadine, he has got a bit of a thorn out of his side and has the ability now to get rid of an unquiet voice, and oh god has she been moaning lately. Don't get me wrong, I think that anyone who goes on these reality shows deserves to die a hideous and nasty death but thats another issue.

Rambling Rose Nov 6th 2012 8:23 pm

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What about Gordon Brown? He's hardly ever in parliament.

campomutt Nov 8th 2012 10:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10370287)
What about Gordon Brown? He's hardly ever in parliament.

Be thankful.

Domino Nov 9th 2012 2:16 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10370287)
What about Gordon Brown? He's hardly ever in parliament.

who ?
:confused:

Rambling Rose Nov 9th 2012 8:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10374442)
who ?
:confused:

Surely you can't forget that much pain so quickly? Seriously though he's hardly ever there and no-one seems to say a thing. Perhaps they're all just relieved. It will be interesting to see if he stands at the next election.
No-one seems to want to give him a job.
Position as head of the US treasury is free :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Dick Dasterdly Nov 9th 2012 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10375492)
Surely you can't forget that much pain so quickly? Seriously though he's hardly ever there and no-one seems to say a thing. Perhaps they're all just relieved. It will be interesting to see if he stands at the next election.
No-one seems to want to give him a job.
Position as head of the US treasury is free :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Meanwhile he continues to draw his paypacket, plus expenses of course, courtesy of the long suffering UK taxpayers.

I was thinking we should be ablle to sue the likes of Brown for gross negligence, then I realised who would be paying the bill.

Rambling Rose Nov 9th 2012 8:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10375504)
Meanwhile he continues to draw his paypacket, plus expenses of course, courtesy of the long suffering UK taxpayers.

I was thinking we should be ablle to sue the likes of Brown for gross negligence, then I realised who would be paying the bill.

That would keep lots of lawyers very happy for years.

rugbymatt Nov 9th 2012 8:49 pm

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Looks like she is settling in....

teuchterpete Nov 9th 2012 8:54 pm

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Correct me if I am wrong but aren't most M.P.s directors of some companies or other for which they receive salaries or more likely other benefits for which they do not pay tax. If they are running the country then why should they not be made to do just that? We rightly chase up dole scoungers for doing jobs on the side. in my view there is no difference. Is Camerons wife still a tax exile? I'm sure that she was.
Pete

mikelincs Nov 9th 2012 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by teuchterpete (Post 10375553)
Correct me if I am wrong but aren't most M.P.s directors of some companies or other for which they receive salaries or more likely other benefits for which they do not pay tax. If they are running the country then why should they not be made to do just that? We rightly chase up dole scoungers for doing jobs on the side. in my view there is no difference. Is Camerons wife still a tax exile? I'm sure that she was.
Pete

I don't think as many have second jobs as used to, now they all have to declare any such jobs and that's now all public record, what really gets me is watching the Parliamentary channel, and seeing a debate where there are, perhaps, 10 MPs present, the other 600+ are being paid, so where are they? They're all there if they know the debate may make the main TV news, but all these debates are about some changes to the law etc.

rugbymatt Nov 9th 2012 9:42 pm

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Originally Posted by teuchterpete (Post 10375553)
Correct me if I am wrong but aren't most M.P.s directors of some companies or other for which they receive salaries or more likely other benefits for which they do not pay tax. If they are running the country then why should they not be made to do just that? We rightly chase up dole scoungers for doing jobs on the side. in my view there is no difference. Is Camerons wife still a tax exile? I'm sure that she was.
Pete

Do you mean Lord Astor? Her step dad?


Class wars never die do they?

Dick Dasterdly Nov 9th 2012 10:13 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10375538)
Looks like she is settling in....

Tough life innit, being an M.P.
She's only suspended for now, so likely still drawing her pay packet at our expense to boot.
Talk about taking the p!ss.


I'm sure I caught a glimpse of her left nipple there, or was it only wishful thinking ? :rofl:

rugbymatt Nov 9th 2012 10:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10375649)
Tough life innit, being an M.P.
She's only suspended for now, so likely still drawing her pay packet at our expense to boot.
Talk about taking the p!ss.


I'm sure I caught a glimpse of her left nipple there, or was it only wishful thinking ? :rofl:

Talk of her going off to UKIP now, well, after I'm a Celebrity get me more Famous you'd think her career couldn't slide any lower.... I'm proved wrong.

Domino Nov 9th 2012 11:33 pm

Re: Well done Cameron
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 10375605)
I don't think as many have second jobs as used to, now they all have to declare any such jobs and that's now all public record, what really gets me is watching the Parliamentary channel, and seeing a debate where there are, perhaps, 10 MPs present, the other 600+ are being paid, so where are they? They're all there if they know the debate may make the main TV news, but all these debates are about some changes to the law etc.

IIRC they have to register being "in the house" they don't have to be in the Chamber.
So when you fancy a nice subsidised meal in the "canteen" with a good bottle of wine or three, wining and dining potential employers for the future, all you have to do is register.

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agoreira Nov 10th 2012 7:46 am

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Imagine working for a company with approx 635 employees
29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
9 have been accused of writing bad cheques
17 have directly or indirectly bankrupt at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 can not get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shop lifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year
And collectivity, this year alone they have cost the tax payer £92,993,748.00 in expenses (nearly 93 million)

Welcome my friends to the House of Commons!
These are the people responsible for 100's of new laws each year to keep the rest of us in check!

Oh and by the way, the also have probably have the best 'corporate' pension scheme in the country, while trying to ensure that the rest of us has the worst!

Here lies the problem, its at the top, not the bottom as they are brainwashing the nation to believe.

Shard Nov 10th 2012 8:04 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10376152)
Imagine working for a company with approx 635 employees
29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
9 have been accused of writing bad cheques
17 have directly or indirectly bankrupt at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 can not get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shop lifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year
And collectivity, this year alone they have cost the tax payer £92,993,748.00 in expenses (nearly 93 million)

Welcome my friends to the House of Commons!
These are the people responsible for 100's of new laws each year to keep the rest of us in check!

Oh and by the way, the also have probably have the best 'corporate' pension scheme in the country, while trying to ensure that the rest of us has the worst!

Here lies the problem, its at the top, not the bottom as they are brainwashing the nation to believe.

:thumbsup: Are those true stats? In any case, point well made.

rugbymatt Nov 10th 2012 10:00 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10376152)
Imagine working for a company with approx 635 employees
29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
9 have been accused of writing bad cheques
17 have directly or indirectly bankrupt at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 can not get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shop lifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year
And collectivity, this year alone they have cost the tax payer £92,993,748.00 in expenses (nearly 93 million)

Welcome my friends to the House of Commons!
These are the people responsible for 100's of new laws each year to keep the rest of us in check!

Oh and by the way, the also have probably have the best 'corporate' pension scheme in the country, while trying to ensure that the rest of us has the worst!

Here lies the problem, its at the top, not the bottom as they are brainwashing the nation to believe.

It turns out that despite having an opinion on everything Harriet Harmen does not like to be reminded that she was caught using a phone while driving but because of who she is, got away with it on Twitter....

mikelincs Nov 10th 2012 10:34 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10376174)
:thumbsup: Are those true stats? In any case, point well made.

with different figures that story has been attributed to every government in the western world. Gets trotted out every so often on BE.

Lothianlad Nov 10th 2012 11:05 am

Re: Well done Cameron
 

Originally Posted by dunmovin (Post 10370121)
Will she still be paid as an MP during this time? Who is doing her job while she makes a fool of herself for tv?

Unfortunately - yes....Dorries will continue to be paid her full MP salary while she is (hopefully) being forced to eat kangaroo testicles.

And - yes - but this time fortunately for those of us back home here in the UK who wish her all the very worst while she is dining on cockatoo droppings washed down with possum piss hope to high heaven to see her make one almighty fool of herself.

And while she is being subjected to all of this sort of caper instead of doing what she is being paid to do - attending to the relatively minor point of caring for her constituents in the lush green pastures of Bedfordshire Mid thousands of miles away at the other end of the world, those very same constituents back in Bedfordshire Mid are now most probably vowing to vote for her on every single occasion for her to be selected to suffer the indignities of being force fed on dung beetles or being made to lie in an underground chamber infested with cockroaches.

And when she eventually gets back to England, £40,000 richer and a few weeks' salary payments wealthier into the bargain, she will be faced with a Deselection Notice from her Mid Beds Constituency Selection Board on her front doormat with the distinct likelihood of a P45 to follow later.

Rambling Rose Nov 10th 2012 8:39 pm

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There is actually an article by a very silly woman called Elenor Mills in the Sunday Times today which defends this woman going to the jungle. Her argument believe it or not, is that Cameron and co are so out of touch with ordinary voters that its a good move for her to be there!!

Pocaloca Nov 10th 2012 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10376152)
Imagine working for a company with approx 635 employees
29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
9 have been accused of writing bad cheques
17 have directly or indirectly bankrupt at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 can not get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shop lifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year
And collectivity, this year alone they have cost the tax payer £92,993,748.00 in expenses (nearly 93 million)

Welcome my friends to the House of Commons!
These are the people responsible for 100's of new laws each year to keep the rest of us in check!

Oh and by the way, the also have probably have the best 'corporate' pension scheme in the country, while trying to ensure that the rest of us has the worst!

Here lies the problem, its at the top, not the bottom as they are brainwashing the nation to believe.

So what would you prefer instead? A dictator, or anarchy?

These people have got their seats because the vast majority of people can't be bothered to get involved in politics themselves. Anyone can join a political party and help choose decent trustworthy candidates, but they are too apathetic.

Rambling Rose Nov 10th 2012 9:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10376704)
So what would you prefer instead? A dictator, or anarchy?

These people have got their seats because the vast majority of people can't be bothered to get involved in politics themselves. Anyone can join a political party and help choose decent trustworthy candidates, but they are too apathetic.

Hear, hear but I think there is a shortage of decent trustworthy candidates to choose from. People who go into politics tend to be either idealists who want to change the world or the patrician type who have some idea of 'service'. That doesn't necessarily make them either bright enough or honest enough.
To get elected these days they have to look good on TV and talk in sound bites. Not a good way of judging their attention to detail or many of the other attributes they need to do the job.
Plus the pay is not that great if you are clever enough to have a good career in business or the professions.... and you can do that with less interference in your private life.

amideislas Nov 10th 2012 9:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10376717)
Hear, hear but I think there is a shortage of decent trustworthy candidates to choose from. People who go into politics tend to be either idealists who want to change the world or the patrician type who have some idea of 'service'. That doesn't necessarily make them either bright enough or honest enough.
To get elected these days they have to look good on TV and talk in sound bites. Not a good way of judging their attention to detail or many of the other attributes they need to do the job.
Plus the pay is not that great if you are clever enough to have a good career in business or the professions.... and you can do that with less interference in your private life.

I've always believed that the public, in our quest to satisfy our own selfish interests, is an unwitting collaborator in much of what we deplore.

jackytoo Nov 10th 2012 9:54 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10376753)
I've always believed that the public, in our quest to satisfy our own selfish interests, is an unwitting collaborator in much of what we deplore.

Agree, we let the party machines impose candidates on us who are not local, know nothing of the area and are basically just careerists who have never had a job outside politics. As in the case of the MP in the jungle and Brown, why aren't locals protesting that they aren't being repesented in Parliament...because we can't be bothered

teuchterpete Nov 10th 2012 11:02 pm

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" I'm a celebrity get me out of here"
Do we really class our M.P.s as celebrities? Getting a lot of money for doing very little and seeking as much publicity as possible? Perhaps I just answered my own question.

mikelincs Nov 10th 2012 11:33 pm

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Originally Posted by teuchterpete (Post 10376835)
" I'm a celebrity get me out of here"
Do we really class our M.P.s as celebrities? Getting a lot of money for doing very little and seeking as much publicity as possible? Perhaps I just answered my own question.

Do we class any of those idiots who have gone there as 'celebrities', it just seems as an excuse for anyone who, at sometime in the past, was well known for something, or who wants to make money and get publicity, to spend a few weeks on TV.

agoreira Nov 11th 2012 1:14 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10376704)
So what would you prefer instead? A dictator, or anarchy?

Is that the only alternative? Would the present system but with honest MP's be asking too much? The vast majority don't fall into the above categories, just need to dump the rotten one's that are there. I'm with Mr Churchill, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

The Beast Nov 11th 2012 1:17 am

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The tentacle sprawling world of ‘Celebrities’ will one day implode from the billowing, gaseous , foul stench air permeated from all the bullsh#t it vomits as it scams its vacuous existence through the shallow, venal world of Z-list idols created by the superficial, one dimensional people who worship at its crass alter.

Pocaloca Nov 11th 2012 1:18 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10376936)
Is that the only alternative? Would the present system but with honest MP's be asking too much? The vast majority don't fall into the above categories, just need to dump the rotten one's that are there.

Isn't that what I said in the rest of my post? :confused: But it won't happen unless people get off their bums and stop whingeing!

campomutt Nov 11th 2012 1:53 am

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Should we get our guns..

Lothianlad Nov 11th 2012 9:43 am

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Oh what an unforgiving lot the Great British voting public are - especially on crap TV reality shows such as I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here.....here being, in this first case, a kind of underground tomb infested with all kinds of nasty bugs and crawlies that creep and slither...and for this first so called Bushtucker Trial of endurance and quite probably suffering the Great British Public have voted for the first victim to be subjected to this ordeal.......and no prizes for guessing who it is to be.........

......the Honourable Member for the Bedfordshire Mid Parliamentary Constituency........Nadine Dorries MP.............:rofl:

She said she "expected it". Too right, madam!

agoreira Nov 11th 2012 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 10377384)
Oh what an unforgiving lot the Great British voting public are - especially on crap TV reality shows such as I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here.....here being, in this first case, a kind of underground tomb infested with all kinds of nasty bugs and crawlies that creep and slither...and for this first so called Bushtucker Trial of endurance and quite probably suffering the Great British Public have voted for the first victim to be subjected to this ordeal.......and no prizes for guessing who it is to be.........

......the Honourable Member for the Bedfordshire Mid Parliamentary Constituency........Nadine Dorries MP.............:rofl:

She said she "expected it". Too right, madam!

You're right about "crap TV", you need to be brain dead to watch this sort of stuff. Personally I've never watched any of them, so I'll have to take your word for it about what happened, you obviously know more about the programme than I do.

jimenato Nov 11th 2012 7:57 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10377802)
You're right about "crap TV", you need to be brain dead to watch this sort of stuff. Personally I've never watched any of them, so I'll have to take your word for it about what happened, you obviously know more about the programme than I do.

Anyone else spot the slight contradiction in this post?;)

jackytoo Nov 11th 2012 9:18 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10377802)
You're right about "crap TV", you need to be brain dead to watch this sort of stuff. Personally I've never watched any of them, so I'll have to take your word for it about what happened, you obviously know more about the programme than I do.

It's impossible to get away from it though. It's in all the newspapers every day. I hate all reality TV as it's anything but that. Read that the "jungle" where they are filming has a bus stop outside...so much for isolation:rofl:

amideislas Nov 11th 2012 9:23 pm

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