The United Nations.
 

There can't be a higher body in the world than the United Nations; everybody belongs to it and obeys its laws (resolutions).

Today they killed Gaddafi's youngest son and three grandchildren, in their home in Tripoli.

If you don't think that was right, there's no one to complain to, is there? There's no one higher than the UN.

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I would have thought that God was a lot higher if the bible is to be believed ,.... and definitely nothing like as corrupt.

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Have they? We are told it has happened, and we are told that Gadaffiduck was there as well, but not a shred of evidence has been given yet... but hey, don't let that stop the handwringing.

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Latest reports suggest it's another Gaff adi publicity stunt to gain World sympathy, though I wouldn't rule out him having deliberately put them in harms way, being the low down conniving barsteward that he is.
In any event a mere drop in the ocean compared with his own attrocities.

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I think everyone has it pretty well spot on. He deserves everything he gets, as does his family.

I don't remember him crying a single tear over the men, women and children his men have killed.

If he ends up losing his family, he can hardly complain.

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But endlesssly kills people in huge natural disasters and lets his "employees" screw the general public in total freedom as much as they posssibly can whenever possible ....... allegedly :blink::blink:

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Yes, but if you accept that,then you've also got to give him credit for all the many wonderful things in this World.

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Once again, we come down to asking how many beautiful sunsets it takes to balance an earthquake that kills one person.

The idea of a god interferring is ridiculous.

Here's a mental exercise for people.

You are god for the day. The hawk is chasing the dove, and both are praying to you. If the hawk wins, the dove's chicks will die. If the dove escapes, the Hawk's chicks will die.

So which prayer will you answer?

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Yes .... but I wasnt accepting it :D
Same old question really for another thread I guess .... if He existed, how does someone so supposedly wonderful allow so much sh!t to happen so indiscriminately

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There is a very simple explanation which covers it all.

Either

a) there is no god.

or

b) he doesn't interfere at all.

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I didn't think you were. I was simply playing the Devils advocate,.. or should that be Gods advocate ? :unsure:

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If we leave God out of it, the UN is what we've got left. I didn't suppose the world will ever face an external military threat, but there are enough internal ones to be going on with, and natural disasters happen all the time.

All I was saying was – what if they get it wrong? In the newspaper I was reading this morning about the UN and Libya they had an adjoining article about Donald Trump being put forward for the presidency of the US.

The people of the US won't vote for that clown, will they? Will they? The UN voted to bomb Libya and another mighty organisation, NATO, decided to target one man and his family.

It shakes my belief in those large organisations so 'democratically' elected.

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I would find it difficult to shed any tears for this particular family in view of the fact that most ppl. believe the World would be a better and safer place without them.
I would say there are many more millions of victims of similar circumstances more deserving of your sympathy.

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I don't know that much about Libya, but it was on my list of places to visit in 2001. I had saved up for years for the trip of a lifetime and the research took years too, pleasant years. I threw away the travel plans the day after 9 /11 and we stayed at home.

Tripoli, Jerusalem, Petra, Mecca, they were all on the list, we were going to travel easterly and go right round, the only place we've managed since then has been Las Vegas, and that could have been classed as a business trip.

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you've been talking to my OH.........

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They would vote for Mickey Mouse if he stood for president, and he would probably be the best one they ever had.

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After Bill Clinton, yeah.

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By that reasoning it's ok to kill tens of thousands of Americans in revenge for the attrocities committed by George Bush.

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The old saying comes to mind "Two wrongs don't make a right"

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Sorry,but I find your sense of logic somewhat confusing.:confused:

I don't recall saying that it would be ok to kill tens of thousands of Libyans because of Gadaffis attocities.

On the contrary the general idea of the present operation is supposed to be to save Libyan lives, however dropping a big one on top of Gadaffis head may also assist in that aim, regardless of whether or not it was on the agenda.

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Have you learned nothing from Iraq?

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You mean that the best place for evil dictators commiting genocide is six foot under.
He was already directly responsible for one war which killed many ppl.and was continuing to wipe out large sections of his own ppl.
The fact that the Americans cocked it up would hardly have been justification for putting a protection order on him or giving him a licence to continue his horrendous deeds.

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Yes. Haven't you?
Do you not acknowledge the huge differences in the Libyan and Iraq operations? I dont see Allied tropps storming through Libya and taking control of the country. ;):)

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Yet.

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WMDs were a lie, Gaddafi is real.

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I may be niave here, but I think theres more chance of that happening than me winning the lottery :lol:
They arent going to do Iraq, Afghanistan and then risk Libya as well.

I suppose from the earlier post you could ask .... didnt they learn anything from Vietnam?

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If there is money to be made on weapons and oil perks then they will go anywhere . ;);)

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I guess the answer to that one is....NO

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I would say the answer is YES, especially as the Yankss have a huge axe to grind with Gadaffi and Co and yet have been very careful to distance themselves from any likely ground operations.

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Are you seriously suggesting that a country would deliberately go to war, simply to help its companies increase arms sales ?
Personally I find that arguement to ludicrous to even consider.

With regard to oil, I'm pleased you mentioned perks, because basically thats all its been and it would require an absolutely massive amount of perks to even begin to compensate for all the other costs and losses as well as loss of life involved, so I would be inclined to rule out that arguement also.

Kuwait got back control of its own oil after Saddam had stolen the lot.
The Iraqi oil income now goes to its ppl. instead of being syphoned of to buy arms and develop weapons, as well as kill off many of his own ppl by a very unpleasant dictator.

In those respects,a positive result,.... but whether the end justified the means is another question entirely.

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So they don`t sell them arms and send troops in to show them how to use them, get real. :rofl:

http://blogs.amnesty.org.uk/blogs_entry.asp?eid=1495

"According to the latest annual report on weapons-related exports, the government in 2006 approved arms exports to 19 of the 20 countries it identified as 'countries of concern' for abusing human rights.

They included Saudi Arabia, Israel, Colombia, China, and Russia. The report also reveals that during 2006 the UK authorised the export of more than 15,000 sniper rifles to countries including Pakistan, Jordan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, components for military aircraft and tanks for China, and heavy machine guns for Colombia. "

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Quite, but that was not my point, which was it would be damned stupid for a country to start or become involved in a war with the sole purpose of helping its companies increase arms sales.