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Old Oct 21st 2011, 5:57 pm
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Thank you for that - it is very welcome (and somewhat surprising) news.
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Originally Posted by jimenato
Thank you for that - it is very welcome (and somewhat surprising) news.
I think it would be a good idea to start a new thread on this as its getting away from the original thread. I will start one
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Site for Spanish entrepreneurs and autonomos here:

http://www.muypymes.com/
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Old Oct 24th 2011, 7:35 pm
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A call to arms for Spanish entrepreneurs. Manifiesto EspaƱa Emprende

/http://actuable.es/retos/manifiesto-espana-emprende-2
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Correct link

http://actuable.es/retos/manifiesto-espana-emprende-2
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Thanks for the correction jimenato!

It seems that the message is getting across to some in power. The autonomo fee is to be cut by 50% for the first 15 months of "alta" (registration). But this is just in Madrid (other areas may have their own schemes?) and only for under 30s, but it's a start. (article in Spanish)

http://www.muypymes.com/2011/10/27/r...otas-autonomos
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Originally Posted by EllisG
I wouldn't rely on this tinpot country ever paying things back. I am still waiting for a refund of IVA from last December. The only reply I ever get from my worse than useless assessor is that they are investigating it. I applied for a VAT refund for a business I closed down in the UK last year, it came 14 days later.

Civil servants around the world are notoriously lazy and incompetent...complete the job title to Spanish civil servant and you can take lazy and incompetent to a new level with a hint of added corruption

But like The Murphys..........
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Originally Posted by EllisG
and let us not forget how everyone loves to harp on about immersing ourselves in the local lifestyle and getting in touch with the "culture" which surrounds us in the place we choose to reside.

If only I had an interest in Spanish culture...perhaps I would be less likely to pay these crippling taxes which benefit me in no way whatsoever
Italy has much more to offer culturally than Spain; and you can still enjoy paying crippling taxes to an inefficient and corrupt state that will benefit you in no way whatsoever.
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Italy has much more to offer culturally than Spain;
What is your reasoning behind this?

Agree about the corruption though. I know an Italian who actually moved to Spain to get away from the corruption
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Originally Posted by ononno
Italy has much more to offer culturally than Spain; and you can still enjoy paying crippling taxes to an inefficient and corrupt state that will benefit you in no way whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by cricketman
What is your reasoning behind this?

Agree about the corruption though. I know an Italian who actually moved to Spain to get away from the corruption
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Originally Posted by ononno
Italy has much more to offer culturally than Spain; and you can still enjoy paying crippling taxes to an inefficient and corrupt state that will benefit you in no way whatsoever.
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And they have Limoncello
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And they have Limoncello


The fuel of conkerers.
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as it is generally understood the Spanish have no allowances or support system for new-entrepreneurs you may be interested to see that for the past 2 years France has had a system to support micro businesses, sidelines etc called "Auto-Entrepreneur"
The turnover figures are perhaps a bit low, but at least they have a system of support.

http://www.frenchentree.com/france-e...e.asp?ID=37356

http://www.pbss-uk.com/AEGuide_March2009_EN.pdf

http://www.auto-entrepreneur.fr/kit-...trepreneur.php
(only available in French)
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Originally Posted by ononno
Italy has much more to offer culturally than Spain; and you can still enjoy paying crippling taxes to an inefficient and corrupt state that will benefit you in no way whatsoever.
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I think you took my comment out of context...I have no desire or use for cultures or lifestyles of others as I said in a following comment I have an ideal beach (not many beaches in Italy fit my ideal...I looked), can fly to see my parents or my daughter from a nearby airport and pop into Morissons to buy a decent steak and Bramley apples for my strudel (as I did today). Could be anywhere in the world, just happens to be in Spain.

This does not mean I have to take an interest in what goes on around me since the only thing that directly affects me is how much of my money they help themselves to not what they do with it
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