Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
I think you exaggerate the contribution expats make to GDP.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
They might let people leave a few days late without any black mark against their name (at least until ETIAS automates everything) but I'm pretty sure they won't let it turn into a cachondeo.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
I can appreciate that the local economy will lose some trade, but I suspect they were more aware than those Brits who failed to register.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
Simple fact is had the people who lived under the radar done things correctly by obtaining residencia, then everyone would have been winners. The Spanish government would have gained from getting the tax they were due, local economy would gain from the same spending they would make either way and they would gain by being legal and allowed to stay with same perks as pre Brexit. I have no sympathy for such people they played the game they chose and must now accept the consequences.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
Simple fact is had the people who lived under the radar done things correctly by obtaining residencia, then everyone would have been winners. The Spanish government would have gained from getting the tax they were due, local economy would gain from the same spending they would make either way and they would gain by being legal and allowed to stay with same perks as pre Brexit. I have no sympathy for such people they played the game they chose and must now accept the consequences.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
Whilst I generally agree with the above there are also those who could not meet even the old criteria.
That they were tolerated by the authorities encouraged them and, in some sense, who could blame them? I know that I'd rather spend my pension on renting, for example, a caravan in Benidorm not a council flat in Blackburn. I don't think that you hear so much from them.
Those fly by nights running businesses, doing "airport runs" and the other activities have none of my sympathy and deserve all that's coming
That they were tolerated by the authorities encouraged them and, in some sense, who could blame them? I know that I'd rather spend my pension on renting, for example, a caravan in Benidorm not a council flat in Blackburn. I don't think that you hear so much from them.
Those fly by nights running businesses, doing "airport runs" and the other activities have none of my sympathy and deserve all that's coming
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
Whilst I generally agree with the above there are also those who could not meet even the old criteria.
That they were tolerated by the authorities encouraged them and, in some sense, who could blame them? I know that I'd rather spend my pension on renting, for example, a caravan in Benidorm not a council flat in Blackburn. I don't think that you hear so much from them.
Those fly by nights running businesses, doing "airport runs" and the other activities have none of my sympathy and deserve all that's coming
That they were tolerated by the authorities encouraged them and, in some sense, who could blame them? I know that I'd rather spend my pension on renting, for example, a caravan in Benidorm not a council flat in Blackburn. I don't think that you hear so much from them.
Those fly by nights running businesses, doing "airport runs" and the other activities have none of my sympathy and deserve all that's coming
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
I also think Spain did make it simple to comply with what was required. Not sure how other countries dealt with it? Certainly it was both more straightforward for those of us living legally in Spain to remain and less costly than for EU citizens to remain in the UK from what I've read. Plus I doubt in the UK there would be much sympathy shown for EU citizens that couldn't meet the UK's criteria to stay.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
WOW, that didn't take long..!
Germany deports three British electricians for Brexit rule breach
Germany deports three British electricians for Brexit rule breach
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
yep. Wealthy undocumented expats will definitely find a way in a place like Spain where money talks. Tbh I hope they do send all the dregs and idiots that are in Spain causing constant headaches in areas like Marbella. Brexit will help Spain in that sense. Britain has also been doing the same with undocumented Europeans which just come to Britain to traffic drugs. London is fully controlled by the Albanian mafia. They used to get dodgy Italian passports by paying back handers so they could reside in the UK. Can’t see those Italian papers working anymore lol.
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Re: Under the radar? Be afraid, (some) be VERY afraid!
How accurate this is I don't know as it is the Mirror, I like the bit where it says they had armed police present, errr fairly normal to have police at the airport and all Spanish police are armed, but let's make it sound more dramatic than it is. Thing is it looks like they do intend to impose the rules and where easier than at the airport. Another point mentioned in the article that doesn't ring true to me is "People with letters telling them to collect their residency cards were denied entry". However its been discussed on a number of threads that when you apply for a TIE or an exchange to TIE you get no letter or information sent telling you the card is ready for collection? Rather they either tell you at time of application when to make an appointment to collect or wait at least 45 days to do that.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...spain-23832596
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...spain-23832596
Last edited by bobd22; Apr 1st 2021 at 9:16 am.