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Old Nov 28th 2011, 2:23 am
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Don't know the provenance of this info, but just spotted it on a local forum. Please be advised that foreign residents in Spain who are caught driving UK plated vehicles in Spain are being given only 5 days to start the importation process. Following this, the vehicle may be impounded (incurring extra costs!).
Accurate quotes for importation can only be issued once a copy of the vehicle log book is produced.
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Originally Posted by fionamw
Don't know the provenance of this info, but just spotted it on a local forum. Please be advised that foreign residents in Spain who are caught driving UK plated vehicles in Spain are being given only 5 days to start the importation process. Following this, the vehicle may be impounded (incurring extra costs!).
Accurate quotes for importation can only be issued once a copy of the vehicle log book is produced.
True or not this sounds like an extract from a ad by a gestoria! Anyway I hope it does encourage drivers of all those illegal foreign plated cars to get legal.

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Originally Posted by rafikiphoto
True or not this sounds like an extract from a ad by a gestoria!
Agreed, but just maybe it is the final death knell for cars being driven around with neither proper Spanish nor proper British credentials and more importantly, insurance??
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Originally Posted by fionamw
Agreed, but just maybe it is the final death knell for cars being driven around with neither proper Spanish nor proper British credentials and more importantly, insurance??
...and not before time!
(looks like my edit crossed with your post.

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Originally Posted by fionamw
Don't know the provenance of this info, but just spotted it on a local forum. Please be advised that foreign residents in Spain who are caught driving UK plated vehicles in Spain are being given only 5 days to start the importation process. Following this, the vehicle may be impounded (incurring extra costs!).
Accurate quotes for importation can only be issued once a copy of the vehicle log book is produced.
It doesn't sound right to me.

For a start there is no such thing as an "importation process". It's just a process of registering the car in Spain.

EU law gives you 6 months to re-register the car. If you want to avoid the registration tax then you have to do it almost as soon as you become resident - like 60 days.

It is possible that if you are "caught" outside the 6 month windows that the car will be impounded - it did happen to a friend a few years ago.

Judging by the extremely few reported cases of the Guardia taking any notice at all of the thousands of "illegal" cars on the roads it sounds like just another "Internet Story".
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Yes I agree. I was told by someone high up in the Guardia Civil that they just do not have the money and resources to do it. Once close to our home there was an abandoned GB plated removal van on a dual carriageway. It was there over 3 months despite many complaints, the local Police said the "procedures" were long and complicated.
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Fair enough. What do I know! We bought a LHD Spanish plated car and wouldn't have done any different. Just not for us. In the case of this story, I just thought it sounded like something more definite than it is!


UPDATE
Just found the provenance of the story. It's a company which re-plates cars. Surprise surprise.
Sorry all.
Thread closed. (no, I know it's not but effectively.......!)

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Old Nov 28th 2011, 6:09 am
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I have always wondered........Is it only the Brits or do the Germans, Dutch etc drive round in illegal cars also?
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Yes they do, at least on the CDS. Plenty of German cars around and regularly parked in the same place. Knew a couple of Swedish ones too, and some Italians.
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Originally Posted by spainrico
I have always wondered........Is it only the Brits or do the Germans, Dutch etc drive round in illegal cars also?
Dutch guy near us got pulled and had to take his car back to where it was registered as it was too expensive for him to register here.
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Originally Posted by spainrico
I have always wondered........Is it only the Brits or do the Germans, Dutch etc drive round in illegal cars also?
Yep and also the Bulgarians.

We also have one Brit who has changed their yellow, rear plate for a white one (home made) in the hope of fooling the authorities!!!
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Car scams happens in UK too. On our summer visit two years ago, we saw a DVLA bloke outside looking at our RHD but Spanish plated car and tapping things into a hand-held computer.

When asked why, he wouldn't tell us initially, but waited for information to come back to him, then said 'that's fine, your car has been officially imported into Spain on (date). It's quite legal'.

Then he explained that there is a widespread scam amongst Europeans entering the UK. They bring old car plates from their country of origin, buy an old banger Brit car and then put on their Rumanian (or whaever) plates. Never register, tax, MOT or insure it. And sometimes get away with it for years.

So our RHD car with Spanish plates was suspect and he was checking the chassis number to see if anything came up. I'm very glad to say that bureaucracy both in UK and Spain had done their work for once and it came back as perfectly legal.

The DVLA man had actually come to our street to clamp an untaxed vehicle; he just noticed ours while he was doing this.

So....good result. Our car was officially 'cleared' and the untaxed car got clamped and a great big notice saying UNTAXED VEHICLE stuck on it for all to see!

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About 5 years ago, it was routine business here in Mallorca to confiscate cars with foreign plates (always in the winter, never during tourist season).

The rationale was that any car with foreign plates in the winter was highly suspect of being illegal - in other words, the owners were suspected of living in Spain and not changing to Spanish plates.

Most people I knew at that time had their cars confiscated at one point or another (including myself only 1 month after arriving in Mallorca with German plates on the car).

The process worked like this:
Guardia civil set up a checkpoints at busy roundabouts. They would stop all cars with foreign plates. Without further discussion, they would immediately put the car on a grua and haul it away, hand you a paper telling you to show up at the aduana on a certain date and time, carrying any papers which prove the legitimacy of the vehicle. Transport from that location was your problem. Usually the Taxis would line up in anticipation that people would need them.

After you prove the legitimacy of your car, you pay them €240 for the towing and you get your car back. If you are resident in Spain, and cannot prove how long the vehicle was on Spanish soil, you pay a huge fine. If you don't pay the fine, you don't get the car back.

Luckily, at the time they confiscated my car, I was not yet a resident, and had the papers from the ferry which brough the car over one month prior, so I got away with €240 for the towing. There was a big outrage about this many years ago.

Well, I read in a local paper a few of years back that they (mistakenly?) did this to a high-ranking EU minister who had driven a Belgian-plated car down from Brussels. Confiscated the car, and made him go through the process. The EU minister took the experience back to Brussels and started a political process to seriously reprimand the Balearic government and put a stop to it.

Subsequently, the practice has been ordered to stop, and I haven't heard of it happening again since.

Well, that's progress.

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Originally Posted by amideislas
About 5 years ago, it was routine business here in Mallorca to confiscate cars with foreign plates (always in the winter, never during tourist season).

The rationale was that any car with foreign plates in the winter was highly suspect of being illegal - in other words, the owners were suspected of living in Spain and not changing to Spanish plates.

Most people I knew at that time had their cars confiscated at one point or another (including myself only 1 month after arriving in Mallorca with German plates on the car).

The process worked like this:
Guardia civil set up a checkpoints at busy roundabouts. They would stop all cars with foreign plates. Without further discussion, they would immediately put the car on a grua and haul it away, hand you a paper telling you to show up at the aduana on a certain date and time, carrying any papers which prove the legitimacy of the vehicle. Transport from that location was your problem. Usually the Taxis would line up in anticipation that people would need them.

After you prove the legitimacy of your car, you pay them €240 for the towing and you get your car back. If you are resident in Spain, and cannot prove how long the vehicle was on Spanish soil, you pay a huge fine. If you don't pay the fine, you don't get the car back.

Luckily, at the time they confiscated my car, I was not yet a resident, and had the papers from the ferry which brough the car over one month prior, so I got away with €240 for the towing. There was a big outrage about this many years ago.

Well, I read in a local paper a few of years back that they (mistakenly?) did this to a high-ranking EU minister who had driven a Belgian-plated car down from Brussels. Confiscated the car, and made him go through the process. The EU minister took the experience back to Brussels and started a political process to seriously reprimand the Balearic government and put a stop to it.

Subsequently, the practice has been ordered to stop, and I haven't heard of it happening again since.

Well, that's progress.
Well actually it is, now that innocent people no longer have to pay fines and towing fees.
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Several near us one in particular whit e van taxed several years ago parks up in local venta next to Guardia car. Guardia get in to car and just ignore the Brit vehicle. Makes my blood boil.
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