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davidinspain Mar 17th 2013 5:27 am

UK NHS payments to Spain
 
I read a post a while ago.Stating that the UK pays something over 3000 euros per expat in Spain.I've searched but can't find it on the forum.I'm looking for a link to where the info originated from.My doctor seems to think we are all health tourists:sneaky:

Fred James Mar 17th 2013 5:41 am

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 
Due to the differing information posted on forums and elsewhwere I contacted the Department of Health for a definitive answer in December last year.

This was their reply:-

Thank you for your email of 3 December about healthcare in Spain . I have been asked to reply.

The UK pays Spain a lump sum of £274.11 per state pensioner, per month, regardless of the level of healthcare accessed by that person.

The Department understands that some local doctors may be under the impression that, as they do not receive this funding directly, the UK is not paying its bills. This is incorrect as the UK pays the Spanish health department in Madrid on an ongoing basis. The question of how such payments are further distributed is, of course, a matter for the Spanish authorities.

Yours sincerely,

Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries
Department of Health

angiescarr Mar 17th 2013 8:28 am

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10609224)
Due to the differing information posted on forums and elsewhwere I contacted the Department of Health for a definitive answer in December last year.

This was their reply:-

Thank you for your email of 3 December about healthcare in Spain . I have been asked to reply.

The UK pays Spain a lump sum of £274.11 per state pensioner, per month, regardless of the level of healthcare accessed by that person.

The Department understands that some local doctors may be under the impression that, as they do not receive this funding directly, the UK is not paying its bills. This is incorrect as the UK pays the Spanish health department in Madrid on an ongoing basis. The question of how such payments are further distributed is, of course, a matter for the Spanish authorities.

Yours sincerely,

Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries
Department of Health

That sounds like the exact amount I pay in Seguridad social as an Autonomo. That can't be a co-incidence....can it?

Fred James Mar 17th 2013 8:49 am

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 
It may be a coincidence but the way the figure is calculated is by taking the total cost of healthcare in Spain divided by the total number of those entitled to it.

It is an EU calculation and would also be used to calculate the amount that Spain would have to contribute to the UK NHS for any Spaniards in the UK under the same reciprocal agreement.

Fredbargate Mar 17th 2013 5:57 pm

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10609500)
It is an EU calculation and would also be used to calculate the amount that Spain would have to contribute to the UK NHS for any Spaniards in the UK under the same reciprocal agreement.

Not sure that many Spaniards choose to go to the UK to retire

Domino Mar 17th 2013 7:14 pm

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 

Originally Posted by Daveinspain (Post 10609204)
I read a post a while ago.Stating that the UK pays something over 3000 euros per expat in Spain.I've searched but can't find it on the forum.I'm looking for a link to where the info originated from.My doctor seems to think we are all health tourists:sneaky:

it may not be the doctor himself but the receptionist.
I ended up being temporarily registered because I made the mistake of giving her my EHIC when registering, although I also had an NIE and INSS number.

I now believe it is best to ensure you go to the big city and get the S1 and yourself registered into "the system" before registering with a doctor.

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lynnxa Mar 17th 2013 7:23 pm

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10610087)
it may not be the doctor himself but the receptionist.
I ended up being temporarily registered because I made the mistake of giving her my EHIC when registering, although I also had an NIE and INSS number.

I now believe it is best to ensure you go to the big city and get the S1 and yourself registered into "the system" before registering with a doctor.

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that's what you're supposed to do................

Domino Mar 17th 2013 7:27 pm

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 10610102)
that's what you're supposed to do................

yes, but like the fool that I am I listened to an expat - and registered with the doctor first as it was closer.
I doubt I am the only one.................

:)

davidinspain Mar 19th 2013 1:58 am

Re: UK NHS payments to Spain
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10609224)
Due to the differing information posted on forums and elsewhwere I contacted the Department of Health for a definitive answer in December last year.

This was their reply:-

Thank you for your email of 3 December about healthcare in Spain . I have been asked to reply.

The UK pays Spain a lump sum of £274.11 per state pensioner, per month, regardless of the level of healthcare accessed by that person.

The Department understands that some local doctors may be under the impression that, as they do not receive this funding directly, the UK is not paying its bills. This is incorrect as the UK pays the Spanish health department in Madrid on an ongoing basis. The question of how such payments are further distributed is, of course, a matter for the Spanish authorities.

Yours sincerely,

Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries
Department of Health

Thanks Fred,though because it isn't on an "official" website I doubt she'll believe me:D trust me to get a xenophobic doctor;)


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