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Cornish maid May 22nd 2007 3:57 am

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Good news for all of us trying our hardest to get out to the sun! Ruth Kelly has announced this afternoon that the uk government is delaying the introduction of the Home Information Packs until August 1st, when it will only apply to houses with 4 or more bedrooms.

The market down here in the South West has become flooded with property for sale in the last week or so, with everyone trying to beat the June 1 deadline. Perhaps now common sense will prevail?
Sally
:thumbsup::thumbup::thumbsup:

skippernicky May 22nd 2007 4:01 am

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It was doomed from the start. B****y Madness

rowlandsbb May 22nd 2007 5:41 am

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Cornish Maid

Do not want to depress you but it will not be long before you will have to have an Engery Certif in Spain to sell a house [or commercial property or even let it].....EU directive which Spain agreed
In UK: RICS has not agreed with proposals and may go back again to delay everything
There are not enough people qualified to do Energy Cert [ most RICS people think they are already qualified......but Gov want a new test which cost money......so many surveyors take the view OK at present why bother!!!!

It is unfair for a 4 bed terrace in the North value [ maybe less than £100k] in worst part of Liverpool or Manchester to have a HIP when a 3 bed apartment in London worth £1m does not need one

Watch the news......everything will be delayed some time!!!

SueG May 22nd 2007 5:47 am

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What a surprise!!! If anybody had an ounce of sense it would be thrown out altogether. Having worked in domestic conveyancing for years all the Solicitors and estate agents could see what was going to happen. Most people selling their houses take all fees etc etc out of the profit and I know that an awful lot of people would not have the necessay funds to provide the HIPS pack. I know that my old firm of Solicitors was trying to jump on the bandwagon well over a year ago and sign up estate agents who would recommend the firm to prepare the packs (but of course if was the Sellers who would have to foot the bill for their preparation). It made me even more determined to get out of conveyancing before they came in!!

P.S. Local searches are only accepted by Lenders if under three months old so if the house takes a while to sell they will have to be renewed and most Councils charge well over £100 and mortgage lenders will still insist on doing their own survey. What a waste of time and money!

Cornish maid May 22nd 2007 6:01 am

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Originally Posted by rowlandsbb (Post 4815825)
Cornish Maid

It is unfair for a 4 bed terrace in the North value [ maybe less than £100k] in worst part of Liverpool or Manchester to have a HIP when a 3 bed apartment in London worth £1m does not need one

Watch the news......everything will be delayed some time!!!


I agree totally with what you are saying regarding the unfairness of it all.

However,the fact that there have been nowhere near sufficient numbers of people trained to do this energy certification could only have caused huge delays/ queues, not to mention hiked prices for the job to be done.

The whole thing was badly organised, the government seemed to want to rush it through without looking at the whole picture. All that has happened is that huge numbers of people have now put their properties on the market in an attempt to beat the June 1 deadine, this appears to have started the slowdown of the property market. There is just too much choice out there for buyers at the moment!

I realise that it is an EU directive, but surely there has to be common sense used in it's introduction?

scampicat May 22nd 2007 7:12 am

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Absolutely stupid idea and why any of the government bods ever thought it would make house buying/selling easier and quicker, I have no idea.

My house in Spain has got no insulation whatsoever, no way to do any, so I don't know what happens there if I ever want to sell it, it is a typical house in a pueblo blanco.

Stupid.

jdr May 22nd 2007 7:46 am

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 4816199)
Absolutely stupid idea and why any of the government bods ever thought it would make house buying/selling easier and quicker, I have no idea.

My house in Spain has got no insulation whatsoever, no way to do any, so I don't know what happens there if I ever want to sell it, it is a typical house in a pueblo blanco.

Stupid.

You will get it in Spain as long as the bricks are cemented together. ;-)

chrisw May 22nd 2007 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4816305)
You will get it in Spain as long as the bricks are cemented together. ;-)

:rofl: Lol! :rofl:

scampicat May 22nd 2007 10:23 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4816305)
You will get it in Spain as long as the bricks are cemented together. ;-)

?Bricks?

jdr May 22nd 2007 6:29 pm

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 4817009)
?Bricks?

Do you live in a cave house then ?
I have seen a few and they look really good.

scampicat May 22nd 2007 7:19 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4818147)
Do you live in a cave house then ?
I have seen a few and they look really good.

No, I don't live in a cave house:lol:

What I meant was our house contains brick as only a small proportion of its building materials.

It is also made of breeze block, concrete, adobe, rubble, wood, slate, rock, launa and mountainside.:eek:

No cavity walls or loft insulation here!

poollounger May 23rd 2007 1:59 am

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Originally Posted by Cornish maid (Post 4815449)
Good news for all of us trying our hardest to get out to the sun! Ruth Kelly has announced this afternoon that the uk government is delaying the introduction of the Home Information Packs until August 1st, when it will only apply to houses with 4 or more bedrooms.

The market down here in the South West has become flooded with property for sale in the last week or so, with everyone trying to beat the June 1 deadline. Perhaps now common sense will prevail?
Sally
:thumbsup::thumbup::thumbsup:

Sometimes I tune in on a different wavelength.. when I saw the post I assumed that you were having a high tech joint replacment, the manufacture of which had been held up... was I disappointed to be reminded about the mundane Home Information Pack fiasco.:D:D:D

jdr May 23rd 2007 2:02 am

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 4818333)
No, I don't live in a cave house:lol:

What I meant was our house contains brick as only a small proportion of its building materials.

It is also made of breeze block, concrete, adobe, rubble, wood, slate, rock, launa and mountainside.:eek:

No cavity walls or loft insulation here!

Every build is the same or similar to yours, only just recently they are changing, even then i dont think there is much insulation or dampcourse being included. ;-)

Cornish maid May 23rd 2007 2:05 am

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[QUOTE=poollounger;4819984]Sometimes I tune in on a different wavelength.. when I saw the post I assumed that you were having a high tech joint replacment,

:rofl::rofl::rofl:If only you knew how close to the truth you were! So far I have had a left knee replaced, right hip resurfaced, and in March of this year had the left hip resurfaced! Perhaps I should rename myself metal minnie??:D

The uk government must be feeling decidedly uncomfortable with all that egg on their faces!:eek:

poollounger May 23rd 2007 7:59 pm

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[QUOTE=Cornish maid;4820015]

Originally Posted by poollounger (Post 4819984)
Sometimes I tune in on a different wavelength.. when I saw the post I assumed that you were having a high tech joint replacment,

:rofl::rofl::rofl:If only you knew how close to the truth you were! So far I have had a left knee replaced, right hip resurfaced, and in March of this year had the left hip resurfaced! Perhaps I should rename myself metal minnie??:D

The uk government must be feeling decidedly uncomfortable with all that egg on their faces!:eek:

What's all this resurfacing business?? Have never heard of it !! I keep telling myself that when I need to have my bits replaced they will all be bionic, so hang on in there. I know a young person who had the cartilage removed from his knee, fresh cartilage grown in the lab, and then replaced. Says it's very good.

pwblackbelt May 23rd 2007 9:27 pm

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[QUOTE=poollounger;4824109]

Originally Posted by Cornish maid (Post 4820015)
What's all this resurfacing business?? Have never heard of it !! I keep telling myself that when I need to have my bits replaced they will all be bionic, so hang on in there. I know a young person who had the cartilage removed from his knee, fresh cartilage grown in the lab, and then replaced. Says it's very good.

I have had my left hip resurfaced. It is not a replacement but it is still a major operation. I looked at this thread because I thought it was about REAL HIPS. lol

crispy May 24th 2007 11:33 am

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[QUOTE=poollounger;4824109]

Originally Posted by Cornish maid (Post 4820015)
What's all this resurfacing business?? Have never heard of it !! I keep telling myself that when I need to have my bits replaced they will all be bionic, so hang on in there. I know a young person who had the cartilage removed from his knee, fresh cartilage grown in the lab, and then replaced. Says it's very good.


Poollounger do you know where he had this done, as I have major knee trouble but keep being told by docs in UK that I am too young to have a
replacement....:curse:

Cornish maid May 24th 2007 5:46 pm

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[QUOTE=crispygirl;4828056]

Originally Posted by poollounger (Post 4824109)


Poollounger do you know where he had this done, as I have major knee trouble but keep being told by docs in UK that I am too young to have a
replacement....:curse:


Hi Crispygirl

I was 47 when I had my left knee replaced. I had had to wait for over 7 years before anyone would take me seriously enough to do something about it. I was given a partial knee replacement, which is supposed to be more suitable for younger patients. It was done privately (thank god for private medical insurance!) here in Cornwall. If you are interested, I could send you a PM with further details of surgeon etc?)

It has been a total success. The recuperation was pretty long winded, but it really has been worth it!
Sally

Miss Naughty May 24th 2007 6:47 pm

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Just another scam for the goverment to make extra pennies.

They have to find a way of getting the cash for their big fat cigars and their malt whiskey.

crispy May 25th 2007 2:10 am

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[QUOTE=Cornish maid;4828779]

Originally Posted by crispygirl (Post 4828056)


Hi Crispygirl

I was 47 when I had my left knee replaced. I had had to wait for over 7 years before anyone would take me seriously enough to do something about it. I was given a partial knee replacement, which is supposed to be more suitable for younger patients. It was done privately (thank god for private medical insurance!) here in Cornwall. If you are interested, I could send you a PM with further details of surgeon etc?)

It has been a total success. The recuperation was pretty long winded, but it really has been worth it!
Sally



I have had some surgery on my knee, partial replacement is the next thing but at the moment it is so much better than when I was working full time, on my feet all day from 5am to 7pm. I put down to exercise in the pool everyday in the summer, problems start again in winter months when I am not using pool. I was interested in what Poollounger was saying about the cartilage being removed and replaced, I wondered if it would be the way to go with my knee.


Of course the other thing the doctors always say is your weight, you will always have knee trouble with so much weight. Yes I fully accept that but I know of many people who have the same trouble (including my sister) and they are carry no extra weight whatsoever. I have worked in the NHS long enough to know that weight is not always the problem for many ailments, yes it is a factor to be considered and remedy but it makes no major difference to the condition.

Yes, PM me the details it is always handy to have for future needs, it is amazing how ops can always be done when you mention money, the same doctor that is telling you it doesn't need doing will quickly change their mind. Thank you

poollounger May 25th 2007 3:26 am

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[QUOTE=crispygirl;4828056]

Originally Posted by poollounger (Post 4824109)


Poollounger do you know where he had this done, as I have major knee trouble but keep being told by docs in UK that I am too young to have a
replacement....:curse:

I will find out next week and let you know....he lives in Essex. His GF works with me. I dont know exactly how old he is but the right side of 30 .

Big Pete May 27th 2007 8:10 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4816305)
You will get it in Spain as long as the bricks are cemented together. ;-)

:rofl:

poollounger Jun 4th 2007 9:32 am

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Hi Cornishmaid.

I went and saw the orthopedic surgeon who operated on my elbow last year on Saturday. It had been superb but was getting a little stiff again recently, but it turns out to be my shoulder. I asked him about this cartilage regrowing and replacement and he said it was becoming standard procedure for knees, but you would need to have access to a larger hospital. You may need to try and get yourself referred to one of the London teaching hospitals. My doc was very reassuring. I asked if I had to live with gradually deteriorating joints as I aged and he was most adamant that this was not so.The technology is advancing all the time and in five years time what was on offer could be much more radical.


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