VEDShappy

https://administracion.gob.es/pag_Ho...residente.html

bobd22

I did add that link a few comments back

VEDShappy

Sorry Bob, going snowblind with it all!

Bomber Harris

Registering in the host state as required is not applying for full residency.
Both the registration certificate issued to EU citizens, and the card issued to their tag-along non EU Spouse, who want to remain for longer than 3 months "shall be valid for five years from the date of issue or for the envisaged period of residence of the Union citizen, if this period is less than five years". (Bold type added by me for emphasis)
Ergo no need to change driving licence, tax status etc when complying with what is required of you, and it also avoids "Failure to comply with the registration requirement may render the person concerned liable to proportionate and non-discriminatory sanctions".
See it's not complete nonsense as you suggest, it's all covered in the relevant legislation.

Lou71

There is no seperate register for this at police stations in Spain. The correct procedure is to obtain the the green registration certificate which pre brexit we referred to as green residency card. You would obtain a temporary one which I would guess would be valid for 5 years. The procedure to get that certificate is exactly the same procedure one used to obtain the same card for residency pre brexit and TIE cards. Whether one should return and cancel it at the end of 6 months or retain it for future stays which may occur of over 3 months I don't know? Because it is basically the exact same procedure and requirements for obtaining residency is why it was ignored. The rules however are over 3 month stays it should be registered that applies to all EU nationals Schengen or not.[/QUOTE]
No wonder tourists ignore it and it is not strictly enforced.

​​​​​​It's longer a problem for UK nationals who have lost freedom of movement.

Lou71

I'm going to try and find someone who has gone through this exact procedure. Someone on here perhaps?

Obviously it is not open to UK nationals now.

Bomber Harris

When the UK was still in the EU a number of my friends from the UK did it when overwintering in either Spain or Portugal. They would tell me the only difficult part was sometimes trying to get the official to understand they only wanted a 6 month registration and not the usual 5 year one.

bobd22

I am that person as at one point pre brexit I went through the whole procedure and obtained my green registration certificate it was with the intention of going on to full residency. However after 4 months our plans were changed by unforseen circumstances and I wanted to cancel my registration as I did not want to run into. Issues re tax and driving licence. So I simply went back through the procedure used to apply but ticked the box cancel and at the designated police station they took paperwork asked for my green card and de registered me. 18 months later our situation re changed favourably for our permenant move I then re submitted for green card got it which 2 years later I changed for TIE.

missile

I do not believe you are correct. However, this is of no interest to me nor it would appear you. I have no interest in debating hypothetical issues.

missile

There was a contentious debate about whether non resident UK nationals should sign the padron pre Brexit.

AFIK an EU tourist staying longer than 90 days does not require to obtain residency. However, I am not an EU national and have no interest in debating hypothetical issues.

Lou71

Frankly, the official would have been somewhat baffled as to why tourists were bothering to register for a six month holiday, rules or not.

bobd22

Per the link both I and Vedshappy put on the requirement applies to all EU citizens. The point about the Padron is a separate issue. Signing the Register is exactly the same procedure as we Brits used to go through to obtain the old green card residencia. Whether people choose to comply is of course a personal decision.

bobd22

Maybe to fully comply with EU legislation?

Lou71

I am that person as at one point pre brexit I went through the whole procedure and obtained my green registration certificate it was with the intention of going on to full residency. However after 4 months our plans were changed by unforseen circumstances and I wanted to cancel my registration as I did not want to run into. Issues re tax and driving licence. So I simply went back through the procedure used to apply but ticked the box cancel and at the designated police station they took paperwork asked for my green card and de registered me. 18 months later our situation re changed favourably for our permenant move I then re submitted for green card got it which 2 years later I changed for TIE.[/QUOTE]
I can see why you did what you did, you were intending to relocate permanently.

I'm looking for EU tourists who have gone through this procedure with the intention of staying for six months. I have asked all my Dutch, Belgian and German neighbours who are constantly coming and going but no luck there. I will have to cast my net wider. No luck with my neighbours in Portugal either.

missile

You may / may not be correct.
It was you who erroneously compared pre-Brexit to current regulations.
However I have yet to meet an EU national who knows or cares about this issue.
I have no interest in debating pointless rules which do not apply to me or the EU citizens who may choose to ignore them.