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Wickalaa Aug 14th 2020 11:22 pm

TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
Hi all, has anyone else been having issues with TransferWise and their “immediate” transfers over the last week?
I made some payments early last week From the UK and they still haven’t been received into my Sabadell account as yet because they were sent via SEPA instead.
When I queried it with TransferWise, they told me they had a technical issue but it’s now been resolved - but I’m not convinced. I’m a bit worried as I need the funds in Spain to complete my house purchase shortly

Can they be trusted?

stevesainty Aug 15th 2020 12:13 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by Wickalaa (Post 12897083)
Hi all, has anyone else been having issues with TransferWise and their “immediate” transfers over the last week?
I made some payments early last week From the UK and they still haven’t been received into my Sabadell account as yet because they were sent via SEPA instead.
When I queried it with TransferWise, they told me they had a technical issue but it’s now been resolved - but I’m not convinced. I’m a bit worried as I need the funds in Spain to complete my house purchase shortly

Can they be trusted?

I have used them for years and all has been well. I had a couple of transfers that took a few days, rather than same day. I queried these at the time, and was advised not to do transfers to Spain on Mondays or Fridays. That seemed to have worked.

However, I rarely do direct transfers as I have a Borderless account with Transferwise. When the exchange rate is up, I transfer from my UK sterling account to my borderless euro account and that takes just seconds. When I need money in my Spanish account I transfer euros from my Borderless account, into my Spanish account, this transaction also takes just seconds. The borderless account is now set up for direct debits now too, another advantage.

Wickalaa Aug 15th 2020 12:30 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
Thanks Stevesainty,

Useful to know about the Monday/Friday issue Re transfers - I’m starting to learn about Spain and it’s bureaucracy!
I’ll look into the borderless account, it could be useful for me going forward.

cheers
Andy

DavidKS Aug 15th 2020 1:31 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
I use CurrencyFair and have recently experienced a delay of a couple of days

Loafing Along Aug 15th 2020 2:59 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by Wickalaa (Post 12897083)
Hi all, has anyone else been having issues with TransferWise and their “immediate” transfers over the last week?
I made some payments early last week From the UK and they still haven’t been received into my Sabadell account as yet because they were sent via SEPA instead.
When I queried it with TransferWise, they told me they had a technical issue but it’s now been resolved - but I’m not convinced. I’m a bit worried as I need the funds in Spain to complete my house purchase shortly

Can they be trusted?

For the first time had a delay this week when transferring to my Transferwise card account . They pointed out the normal service is 48 hours ( it actually arrived after 24 hours ) maybe they are a victim of their own success.

DavidKS Aug 15th 2020 3:02 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
It might be something to do with Covid-19 and staff

spainrico Aug 15th 2020 3:04 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
Never had a problem and last time it took under 10 seconds (once the transaction started) to move pounds to Euros in my Sabadell account. But that was a few months ago.

I have never heard of the Monday/Friday thing.

Joppa Aug 15th 2020 3:16 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
Transferwise, unlike most other currency services, use 'matched bargain' basis, i.e. matching members transferring in the other direction, so for example if you are moving sterling to euro, your transaction is matched to another member moving euro to sterling. Because of this, at certain times there is a slight delay in your transaction going through, for example when a lot more people want to move sterling to euro, but the delay is usually short.

johnnyone Aug 15th 2020 3:34 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by stevesainty (Post 12897103)
. The borderless account is now set up for direct debits now too, another advantage.

I have a borderless transferwise account but have only used it to transfer funds to my Spanish (Caixa) bank.

I am very wary of Spanish banks. Their charges are high but they are not particularly helpful and closing an account might be more trouble than its worth.

​​​​​​i) If I set up direct debits for my utilities etc can I close my Spanish bank account?
ii) Was setting up your dd's straightforward?
Thanks in advance

stevesainty Aug 15th 2020 4:13 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 12897186)
I have a borderless transferwise account but have only used it to transfer funds to my Spanish (Caixa) bank.

I am very wary of Spanish banks. Their charges are high but they are not particularly helpful and closing an account might be more trouble than its worth.

​​​​​​i) If I set up direct debits for my utilities etc can I close my Spanish bank account?
ii) Was setting up your dd's straightforward?
Thanks in advance

I have not used the DD service myself yet but I have heard from others who have had no problems. If you have a live Chat with Transferwise, or email or telephone their support service, they will give you chapter and verse. They are very friendly to talk to on the phone. I believe that you can give up your Spanish bank and use Transferwise, but I still bank with Sabadell as well.

spainrico Aug 15th 2020 4:59 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
I thought Spanish utilities could only be paid from a Spanish bank account.

stevesainty Aug 15th 2020 5:14 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12897227)
I thought Spanish utilities could only be paid from a Spanish bank account.

I have a Belgian IBAN number on my Euro account with Transferwise, and this can be used to set up Direct Debits to Spain.

Here is one of the FAQ answers from Transferwise Borderless, https://transferwise.com/help/17/bor...r-bank-details

What if my EUR bank details aren't working?


We recently started giving users a new IBAN, starting with "BE". It lets users set up Direct Debits and get paid faster. But some people have had problems using these details. Here's what to do if something goes wrong.

A merchant is blocking my Direct Debit

Despite the Euro single market, some merchants won’t allow Direct Debits from Euro accounts in another country. For example, a Spanish gym might not accept your IBAN because it's based in Belgium.

Merchants are required by EU law to accept IBANs from other members of the European Economic Area (EEA). So, if someone doesn't accept your IBAN, please let us know using this form.

You can also report merchants who don't accept your IBAN to the relevant authority in your country.


jonboy Aug 15th 2020 5:55 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
I sent money to my Spanish flat's management account via Transferwise on 12th August and it arrived in less than a minute.

jonboy Aug 15th 2020 6:02 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
In the past money sent to Ireland has taken a day and to Malaysia has taken 3-4 days.

Joppa Aug 15th 2020 6:18 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by jonboy (Post 12897253)
In the past money sent to Ireland has taken a day and to Malaysia has taken 3-4 days.

Probably to do with the amount of traffic for the currency pair. Clearly there is more movement between sterling and euro than sterling and ringgit, so easier to pair up.

bob_day Aug 15th 2020 9:18 pm

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
I often find that when I transfer a chunk of money to my Sabadell account it doesn't appear until I've sent them am email asking where it is. Then as if my magic my balance increases by 10,000euros...

tebo53 Aug 16th 2020 12:12 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
I've been using Transferwise for about 7 years and can't remember ever having a problem.

Transfers from Barclays bank in the UK to Sabadell bank using Transferwise service have got better recently and are only taking seconds to transfer. 100% happy!!

Steve

Wickalaa Aug 17th 2020 1:03 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone, I’m pleased to say that the money has now arrived - 1 week after sending it?!

spainrico Aug 17th 2020 2:49 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
I would be intrigued to know why they took a week! Like tebo53 the last time I used them it took seconds.

Loafing Along Aug 17th 2020 3:06 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 

Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12897983)
I would be intrigued to know why they took a week! Like tebo53 the last time I used them it took seconds.

Agree with you 100% . When there was a delay and I queried it this is the reply I got :

Thanks for getting in touch.

The time it takes for deposits to your EUR balance depends on how the money was sent. Please note, that bank transfers in the SEPA zone usually take 1-2 working days to arrive. SWIFT transfers can take up to 5 working days because of time differences and intermediary banks. You can learn more about it by following the link below - Guide to EUR transfers

Wickalaa Aug 21st 2020 1:09 am

Re: TransferWise immediate transfer issues
 
My final update on this one.

the funds eventually arrived in my Sabadell account on 20th Aug having been sent on 11&12th Aug. The delay wasn’t with TransferWise apparently, it turns out that Sabadell had blocked my account for a week as it’s only been opened fairly recently and they had money laundering concerns about the amounts I was transferring to them.
A frustrating delay, but all resolved now (after a few calls to Sabadell call centre and then my local branch)


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