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bobd22 Mar 14th 2014 1:31 am

Tony Benn
 
I see from the news Tony Benn has passed away, I may not have always agreed with his views especially CND views me being ex forces, however he was a man of principle and I admired him for that, more than can be said for New Labour. One of the Old Guard Labour Party RIP.

snikpoh Mar 14th 2014 2:45 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 11172770)
I see from the news Tony Benn has passed away, I may not have always agreed with his views especially CND views me being ex forces, however he was a man of principle and I admired him for that, more than can be said for New Labour. One of the Old Guard Labour Party RIP.

Very sad news, he was a good family friend.

Domino Mar 14th 2014 3:13 am

Re: Tony Benn
 
I didn't agree with his belief's and principles, but admire his stand on many things, despite the ridicule and demotions he received over the years.

Looking at the pansies and patsies we have nowadays none of them can even be worth polishing his shoes letalone replace him in any way.

The end of another era, there really cannot be many left from those times now, just us who were there and experienced them.

:(

jackytoo Mar 14th 2014 4:29 am

Re: Tony Benn
 
They will probably be saying the same of Blair/Cameron etc when they are 88. At some stage in their lives they all turn into national treasures and anyone saying anything bad about them are vilified:D

lutonlad Mar 14th 2014 5:23 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 11173026)
They will probably be saying the same of Blair/Cameron etc when they are 88. At some stage in their lives they all turn into national treasures and anyone saying anything bad about them are vilified:D

Totally agree - except it doesn't seem to apply to Maggie.
The Left are rarely respectful or magnanimous on these sort of things. I'm surprised that Churchill 's grave hasn't been desecrated in the name Socialism.

EMR Mar 14th 2014 6:34 am

Re: Tony Benn
 
I doubt that any politician in the last 30 years will ever be regarded as a national treasure. Certainly not any of the current generation.
The irony is that Maggie and Benn were in agreement as far as the UK and the EU were concerned.
Churchill formed a national government and bought the labour party into it and this action was probably the reason why Labour won the 1945 election so the socialists are probably gratefull to him.

teuchterpete Mar 14th 2014 7:08 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 11172770)
I see from the news Tony Benn has passed away, I may not have always agreed with his views especially CND views me being ex forces, however he was a man of principle and I admired him for that, more than can be said for New Labour. One of the Old Guard Labour Party RIP.

Well love them or hate them people like Benn and Scargill stuck by their principles, and the fact that they never became PM meant that they never ruined as many lives as Thatcher et.al.

lutonlad Mar 14th 2014 7:19 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by teuchterpete (Post 11173228)
Well love them or hate them people like Benn and Scargill stuck by their principles, and the fact that they never became PM meant that they never ruined as many lives as Thatcher et.al.

Interesting you say 'Thatcher et.al.'
Not Brown et.al.or Blair et.al.... who ruined lives.

Of course only left wingers stick by their principles don't they.
Pathetic propaganda.

Domino Mar 14th 2014 8:17 am

Re: Tony Benn
 
can't see what Thatcher et.al has to do with anything.
Maggie was, like Churchill, a one off. None of her contemporaries picked up the standard and marched on to win the battle.

Useful at the time but discarded when not needed by the young upstarts who have already fizzled out and moved on to more lucrative past-times.

Very few people are prepared to give up a heredity peerage - he was 2nd Viscount Stansgate, to fight in the House of Commons.
He was technically aware and used technology to its full both in and outside The House.

rugbymatt Mar 14th 2014 8:52 am

Re: Tony Benn
 
Benn was an amazing politician. He stood fast to his beliefs and politics regardless of his many detractors and he was a clever firebrand. His loss leaves us with one less politician with integrity and yet more boring and drab liars. A sad day indeed. A great indeed....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ_iMKSsz9E

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2014 9:26 am

Re: Tony Benn
 
I best recall him as a backer of militant tendencies, especially within the unions, many of which were at least partly responsible for the decline in British industry at that time.

So before I posted anything I had a look at an obituary from a popular left wing tabloid supposedly listing his "achievements" in order to balance my P.O.V.

Unfortunately I still didn't come across a single thing that could seriously be regarded as a positive achievement for the country as a whole or any significant section of it's population. :unsure:

rugbymatt Mar 14th 2014 10:13 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11173375)
I best recall him as a backer of militant tendencies, especially within the unions, many of which were at least partly responsible for the decline in British industry at that time.

So before I posted anything I had a look at an obituary from a popular left wing tabloid supposedly listing his "achievements" in order to balance my P.O.V.

Unfortunately I still didn't come across a single thing that could seriously be regarded as a positive achievement for the country as a whole or any significant section of it's population. :unsure:

Good for you.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2014 10:44 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11173429)
Good for you.

Good for you, for thinking good for me. :cool:

Oh dear, my apologies to all, it looks like I've picked up your pointless post habit. :o

rachelk Mar 14th 2014 10:54 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 11173026)
They will probably be saying the same of Blair/Cameron etc when they are 88. At some stage in their lives they all turn into national treasures and anyone saying anything bad about them are vilified:D

It's hard to imagine a future where Blair will be recognised for his honesty and integrity.

rugbymatt Mar 14th 2014 11:13 am

Re: Tony Benn
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11173465)
Good for you, for thinking good for me. :cool:

Oh dear, my apologies to all, it looks like I've picked up your pointless post habit. :o

Good for you.


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