TIE question
 

Why do you have fingerprints taken when applying for a TIE. Im intrigued as to why this is. I'm presuming it's to register you on the Spanish data base?
we've been here ten years about to get our TIE and we wondered why it happens to TCns .
Thank you in advance

LLL

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What is a TCn?

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Because TIE is a biometric card with a chip, where your details including your fingerprints will be stored. Why? Spain is trying to conform to EU standards on residency documents.

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Third Country National ?

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The Spanish give their fingerprints for the DNI and my very first residencia card (21 years ago) also had my fingerprints.

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I don't know if they are employed in Spain but roadside fingerprint checks can immediately identify if a TCN is legal or not, they are used for that purpose in UK.

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An EU citizen's home country is in charge of ID and what biometric data is taken, so if an EU citizen is resident in another EU country the most data that the host country can record (if it wants to) is the kind of data you'll find in Spain's green certificate.

But TCNs get the full treatment with a chipped residency card and fingerprints and all that.

Spain did have a blue EU citizen card much like a TIE and you had to have fingerprints taken as part of getting one, but they got their knuckles rapped for taking too much data and had to change to the green certificate.

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When you enter Panama, even as a tourist, you have to give your fingerprints.

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We exchanged our green ticket for TIE last week. Two desks - I ended up on the desk where the fingerprint machine would not work - the nice National Policeman said not to worry, not
really needed. We asked about redoing all on the machine next door - again, said don't worry - lots of people have TIE cards without fingerprints.

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They'll get you in 5/10 years when you renew. :)

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I have a question also about TIE.

How do we know if our new TIE states if we were living and working in Spain prior to Brexit actually happening (DEC 2020).

I exchanged my green card for the new TIE today, but no where on the card does it state the date I actually arrived in 2018, it just has the card issue date and well, personally I'd like it to state I was here DEC 2020, so that if anything happens there is proof I am eligible for pre-brexit benefits if needs be.

Thanks in advanced

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On the rear, on ours, it says "Emitido bajo art. 18.4 acuerdo retirada"
Issued under art. 18.4 withdrawal agreement

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They keep a separate record of when you first got your green certificate so you can exchange your TIE for permanente at the correct time.

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If you're pre-Brexit then on the front of the card it says "Artículo 50 TUE" and on the back it says what the other poster mentioned two posts above.