Is there any animosity about brixit
Jun 25th 2019, 1:57 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
Why? The UK will be paying my pension. The UK will be taking tax. The UK will (probably) be where my children go to live and work.
Why can't I try and make a better future for us and them. (I know remainers don't believe it will be better but that's not my point here). I have a right to vote because it affects me and might affect my family!
Why can't I try and make a better future for us and them. (I know remainers don't believe it will be better but that's not my point here). I have a right to vote because it affects me and might affect my family!
Also, although many wont admit it, most Brits move to Spain not because they see it as the land of opportunity. It's the weather, lifestyle, property price etc. Relatively few for other economic reasons. Most are retirees or otherwise self sufficient - certainly not reliant on welfare. Also quite happy to just have a fleeting interest in Spanish language if at all. Nowt wrong with that.
Comparing immigrants to the UK with expats in Spain is nonsensical.
Jun 25th 2019, 2:10 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
It is from the point that most immigrants to the UK actually come to work but as you say majority come to Spain to retire or early retirement and are pretty much self sufficient however not all. Some do of course come to work set up a business or simply marry a Spaniard who wants them to settle here, from that stance there is no difference. Also EU consists of more than Spain Cyprus Italy etc with the pull of good weather. Where there is no difference in my view is British and many other EU incomers fail to intirgrate something that many in the UK complain all the time about re EU incomers to the UK especially language wise. Of course we use the magic expat term to describe ourselves which somehow seems to mean we as a higher being than a mere immigrant don't need to bother.
Jun 25th 2019, 2:10 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
Agreed.
Also, although many wont admit it, most Brits move to Spain not because they see it as the land of opportunity. It's the weather, lifestyle, property price etc. Relatively few for other economic reasons. Most are retirees or otherwise self sufficient - certainly not reliant on welfare. Also quite happy to just have a fleeting interest in Spanish language if at all. Nowt wrong with that.
Comparing immigrants to the UK with expats in Spain is nonsensical.
Also, although many wont admit it, most Brits move to Spain not because they see it as the land of opportunity. It's the weather, lifestyle, property price etc. Relatively few for other economic reasons. Most are retirees or otherwise self sufficient - certainly not reliant on welfare. Also quite happy to just have a fleeting interest in Spanish language if at all. Nowt wrong with that.
Comparing immigrants to the UK with expats in Spain is nonsensical.
Jun 25th 2019, 3:27 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
OK folks can we please get back on topic and answer the OP´s question and not go down the usual route about Brexit.
Here is the original question as a reminder.
Rosemary
Here is the original question as a reminder.
Rosemary
Jun 25th 2019, 4:46 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
Rosemary, the OP, is asking about the animosity about Brexit. Hence the replies.
Jun 25th 2019, 7:17 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
There is little, if any animosity. Just a kind of pity, if anything.
Now, if one were to refer to the common stereotypes, well the stereotypes formed of the English aren't particularly positive, yet are considered sort of amusing, rather than a threat, but for the English who've been open minded enough to settle amongst (and integrate within) the real Spanish population, you'll find that the Spanish are very warm and welcoming, especially after discovering that you don't fit the stereotypes. The same is true with any other nationality, really.
It's not about WHO you are, it's about HOW you are. That's an important distinction.
Now, if one were to refer to the common stereotypes, well the stereotypes formed of the English aren't particularly positive, yet are considered sort of amusing, rather than a threat, but for the English who've been open minded enough to settle amongst (and integrate within) the real Spanish population, you'll find that the Spanish are very warm and welcoming, especially after discovering that you don't fit the stereotypes. The same is true with any other nationality, really.
It's not about WHO you are, it's about HOW you are. That's an important distinction.
Jun 25th 2019, 9:45 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
No animosity as far as I can discern from our Spanish friends. You have to understand that Spain has done very well out of the EU as a net recipient. When we first came here our neighbours had mules and most work was done by hand. Now they have several cars, a nice tractor and other machinery. Views will change as Spain contributes to new member states in the East. Also when they realise one size doesn't fit all. They are also astute enough to see the irony in their home politics is no better than the UKs.
learn the language, accept the vagaries of Bureaucracy and integrate and you will be fine. People have been living in other countries successfully since time began.
learn the language, accept the vagaries of Bureaucracy and integrate and you will be fine. People have been living in other countries successfully since time began.
Jun 25th 2019, 10:36 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
Does OP mean Old Person -lol
Jun 26th 2019, 2:02 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
No animosity as far as I can discern from our Spanish friends. You have to understand that Spain has done very well out of the EU as a net recipient. When we first came here our neighbours had mules and most work was done by hand. Now they have several cars, a nice tractor and other machinery. Views will change as Spain contributes to new member states in the East. Also when they realise one size doesn't fit all. They are also astute enough to see the irony in their home politics is no better than the UKs.
learn the language, accept the vagaries of Bureaucracy and integrate and you will be fine. People have been living in other countries successfully since time began.
learn the language, accept the vagaries of Bureaucracy and integrate and you will be fine. People have been living in other countries successfully since time began.
Jun 28th 2019, 12:43 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
If even after more than 3 years some still can't spell Brexit ...
my only on topic comment
my only on topic comment
Jun 28th 2019, 2:15 pm
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Re: Is there any animosity about brixit
Perhaps you are one of those clever people who never make typos! I notice that you did not end your post with a full stop.
Jun 28th 2019, 2:19 pm
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